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HHO Gas Conversion Kit - Expensive Kit Or Affordable DIY Hydrogen Generator? - Commentary by Myla Madson regarding the "Carbon Monoxide poisoning using baking soda" misinformation being spread online.
And feedback from Kauboy at Hydrogen Technology Today Forum -
"Remembering back to my Chemistry days, I decided to look into this claim myself and figure out the equation.
According to him, adding Baking Soda to water, and then electrifying it will cause Carbon Monoxide.
So, lets break this up.
First we have Sodium Bicarbonate - NaHCO3
Then, we have water - H2O
The mixture of these two would produce as follows:
NaHCO3 + H2O -> 3H + O2 + CO2 + Na
That is, Sodium Bicarbonat and Dihydrogen monoxide(fancy for water) would produce 3 Hydrogen atoms, the Oxygen molecule, Carbon Dioxide(harmless to us, since we exhale it), and a Sodium ion.
NaHCO3 + H2O -> H2O + H + O +CO2 + Na (which when electrolyzed, would split the H2O into HHO and leave us with the 3H O2 mix again)
I may have something wrong, and please feel free to correct me.
But I just can't get this equation to make Carbon Monoxide.
The only possible way to make Carbon Monoxide (CO) would be if we also made Ozone(O3), which we certainly don't.
Now I may be forgetting bond strength and such, about which molecules split or form easier than others, but I can't be far from right."
(May 26, 3 2008) Dear Robert,
Thank you for posting your experiences with adding a hydrogen booster to that old van. I am delighted that you did so and enthused by the results.
I researched this a year ago...cobbled up the parts and know-how...but lacked the nerve to give it a try.
All that said: Please redesign your configuration. You NEED to add those flame arrestors. You NEED to relocate that unit. If it must be inside the passenger compartment, because of space limitations with the van's layout, then install the unit inside a thick metal box.
You've proven the technology works and is useful to the masses. You've done everyone a terrific service by doing so and telling others.
But let's make it safe enough for long term use.
Leonard DiAsio firstname.lastname@example.org
(May 26, 2008) Response from Robert -
1) This is a diesel engine and not a gas engine, so the spark arrestor is not needed. Diesels work on compression, not spark.
2) The canister holds water and Potassium Hydroxide in an on-demand environment, so no hydrogen is stored at all. Of the tens of thousands of installs over the years, nobody has ever reported a vehicle explosion from using this process. We will report if such news ever comes forth.
3) Why a "thick metal box"? We need to see what is going on, not hide it. And if an explosion is a concern, why create a shrapnel-inducing environment?
4) The name of the vehicle is called the "Hindenburg II" to be facetious, not to cause panic.
5) The flat-plate "dry" system has been working fine for well over 1 year now (July 2010) without problems.