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Your input here regarding: Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp5 accidentally discovers a solid state resonance of what is otherwise designed to be a rotating system.
Oct. 19, 2004
Now THIS I Like!
As all Tesla fans know, resonance is everything, and any circuit along these lines (using coils) should be able to be "tuned".
Oct. 19, 2004
Yes we always measure with something better then that, gravity
indicators can be misleading, so we use a BK carbon pile tester to
make sure the charge is really in the battery. This type of meter
loads the battery to the amp hours required. As I said to you run the
experiment for yourself and find out if it charges the secondary
battery you do not need a lab to do this work.
say safely, that the TUV test was right on the money, it plainly
states that one battery used as a primary source can run the machine
and charge four batteries at the same time in the secondary circuit.
Sterling is right about making this solid state. What Sterling
has built is a radiant reactive oscillator open loop to nature in the
front end he need's some help but he has learned from this. Good work
Sterling was telling you the truth about coming to visit
here we have what we say we have. Also as I have said that it takes
energy to trigger it out, the only thing that will ever be Over Unity
or FE will be a peremeant magnetic motor running on it's own. A wire collecting charge from the atmosphere charging a
battery, wind power, solar cells, waterpower, these are real free
energy devices, but again somebody must pay for this, so it's not
I have combined my work since 1984 into one machine to make it easy
to build, no timing circuit, no capacitors, just a simple straight
froward circuit to experiment with and learn from. This is all I can
say, just do the experiment. Best of luck to you in your efforts.
-- John Bedini
In my experience with the other Bedini Motor Circuit's, when it Rings
like that, it will charge up a batt pretty fast, but it only amounts to
a surface charge, when you discharge the battery with a 500 watt
inverter running a 250W heat lamp or 100W bulb it does not have much
charge, compared to a regular charged battery, discharged the same
A Gauss Meter Circuit:
this circuit can also run Current sensors like these:
I use the PRO5 for small currents, and the AMP25, AMP100, AMP200 for
These sensors measure current Unintrusively, unlike a Muilitmeter that
adds resistance in series to the circuit that you are measuring, and
their voltage output can be view on a Volt Meter or Oscope.........
Using 2 circuits, one as a Gauss Meter, the other as a Current Meter,
with each viewed on a duel trace Oscope at the same time, will show you
how the magnetic field strength and current flow waveforms are
related..... can be very informitive.....
and this circuit is relatively easy to build..........
Hope this Helps
Oct. 19, 2004
Thanks for the update.
Try checking the coil's core for sound. I suspect the ringing is
coming from the expansion and contraction of the iron, which is
typical in a transformer. In a transformer, when the iron gets
magnetized, it expands. As the coil is shut off, it contracts. This
creates the vibration. I suspect the vibrations were still there with
the lower resistors, but it was in a spectrum you couldn't hear.
Indeed, this is how they make silent transformers -- by changing the
oscillations so that it is oscillating in a frequency we can't hear.
Don't take any of this as coming from an expert -- I'm certainly not
one. I just remembered hearing about vibrating transformers making
noise and so I looked it up on the web and sure enough, that seems to
give a plausible explanation as to the ringing you are hearing.
Oct. 20, 2004
Added by Stefan Hartmann:
Sterling, you have probably built an oscillator circuit by accident
when you changed the resistor.
The frequency is dependant on all the stray capacitance of your coils and the value
of L of your coils.
To compare output energy versus input energy , you need to check the charge
batteries for their output.
So you need to drive a defined load (test resistor) for a defined time on the output
batteries and then compare this output power x time versus the used input energy
(power input x time) at the same charge level of the batteries.
That is a pretty complicated setup, cause you also have to include the
differential charge energy levels of the batteries.
Maybe it would be much better to use supercaps as Dave Squires has stated here:
How about using a supercapacitor bank to replace the batteries?
Get a low leakage type and well matched to get the needed
voltage in series. Charge up the capacitor bank to about
the battery voltage used. Then start it up.
It should be pretty evident if more energy comes back or not.
If yes, the cap voltage rises or remains the same. If not, it
This eliminates all battery chemistry issues, electrolyte
balance or specific gravity checks. These caps do use an
ionic method to store charge somewhat like a battery and so
perhaps are suited well to a test of this system. They don't
have the cycle limit that batteries have.
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Regards, Stefan Hartmann.
Two things you have to remember about batteries.
1) The voltage profiles for charge and discharge are very diffenet. Get the manufactures specs on the charge and discharge voltage profiles
2) The amount of energy taken from or input to a battery is a product of current, voltage, and time.
For varying voltages and currents you need to sum over the tmes for each one.
Total Energy=V1I1t1 +V2I2t2 +V13I3t3 +V441t4 etc.
where V and I are the voltage and current during a time interval t.
try to discharge your charge battery once, to see, how much
energy it really has stored.
Take a 20 Ohm resistor ( 10 Watts type)and see, how long you can draw a current of 600 ma
at 12 Volts with it.
Note current value and voltage value and see how the voltage and current drops
Then you can calculate the right amount of energy capacity you had inside the battery.
Then compare this with the amount of energy you had prior put from the drive battery
into the system.
Oct. 20, 2004
I am no battery expert, but I see two problems with your proposed test.
First, what you are requesting basically amounts to sacrificing a battery because the test you propose will kill the battery. It requires complete discharge, which no battery can take and still live.
Second, it requires painstaking manual data collection or expensive automatic data collection. I'm not willing to do the manual data because of the first reason stated.
What is needed is the Battery Capacity Analyzer Bedini mentioned today at bedini_sg. I saw John and Peter use this routinely when they were showing their prototypes to us. It is a highly accurate way to get a measure of a battery's capacity at a given point without sacrificing the battery. The drawback is the meter is only for a 12-V system, and I'm using 6Vs right now.
I was reading Bedini's explanation of his radiant energy. He basically describes it as voltage without current.
If this is true, a battery could be made to self-charge by correctly pulsing the terminals with the proper voltage waveforms, while not allowing any current to flow (except what is necessary for switching).
This idea would simlify the cricuits necessary to get the Bedini effects, without having any load at all. It would also increase the efficiency of the effect.
Also, short negative voltage pulses applied to the positive terminal, with no external current could cause internal electron flow from the positive to negative pole, thus charging the battery.