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Latest / Directory:Best Exotic Clean Energy Technologies: Directory:Nuclear > Directory:Cold Fusion > Directory:Andrea A. Rossi Cold Fusion Generator - Feature page at PESWiki for collecting material from around the web regarding Italian inventor, Andrea Rossi's energy amplifier, which produces useful power from the apparent fusion of hydrogen and nickel into copper at relatively low temperatures and pressures. They claim to be going into production with a 10 kW industrial product that is reliable, safe, and cheap. (PESWiki January 17, 2011)

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Scientists Still Learning

In his interview, Daniele Passerini said:

22PASSI - the fact remains that there is still a scientific explanation of what happens inside the machine...

And Andrea Rossi replied:

ROSSI: CERN has made that immense ring just to try and start to truly understand how atoms are made, because they do not know.

New Nuclear Theory Needed and Presented

Yes, Rossi is right.

So, look this strange hope of the theorists that try to explaind cold fusion:

1- they do not know the structure of the nuclei, they do not know how exactly the nuclei work when they produce some ordinary nuclear phenomena, and many nuclear properties of the nuclei cannot be explained by current Nuclear Physics.

2- Then, as the current Nuclear Physics cannot explain several ordinary nuclear phenomena and many properties of the nuclei, how could a theorist succeed to explain cold fusion by trying to do it from the foundations of the current Nuclear Physics ?

3- If the nuclear model of current Nuclear Physics should be correct, it would be able to explain all the nuclear phenomena and all the nuclear properties of the nuclei. But it is not able to to it.

4- Therefore, is it reasonable to expect to explain cold fusion by taking as a point of departure a WRONG nuclear model, unable to explain even some ordinary nuclear phenomena ?

For the explanation of could fusion, there is need a NEW nuclear model.

A new theory capable to explain cold fusion must be developed by taking in consideration a new nuclear model capable to explain those nuclear phenomena not explained yet by the current Nuclear Physics.

Such new nuclear model is proposed in Quantum Ring Theory.

See:

PowerPedia:Foundations for Cold Fusion

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Foundations_for_Cold_Fusion

Article: How zitterbewegung contributes for cold fusion in Pamela Mosier-Boss experiment

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:_How_zitterbewegung_contributes_for_cold_fusion_in_Pamela_Mosier-Boss_experiment

PowerPedia:Cold Fusion Theories

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Cold_Fusion_Theories

Article:Cold Fusion and Gamow's Paradox

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Cold_Fusion_and_Gamow%27s_Paradox

PowerPedia:Cold fusion, Don Borghi's Experiment, and hydrogen atom

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Cold_fusion%2C_Don_Borghi%27s_Experiment%2C_and_hydrogen_atom

PowerPedia:New model of neutron: explanation for cold fusion

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:New_model_of_neutron:_explanation_for_cold_fusion

Do It Yourself

Nickel/hydrogen catalytic fusion

On January 23, 2011 12:20 PM MST, Lawrence wrote:

This CAN be done on the bench at home. TEG converters on the metal

reaction chamber would convert to electricity...though not very

efficiently....generating steam and driving a piston steam engine

driving an alternator would be more efficient.

All it takes is a 12 volt automotive battery to supply the heating filament with 400 watts to heat the hydrogen/nickel powder mixture

to 1100 degrees F....from that point on the catalytic reaction becomes self sustaining. With no air in the sealed chamber, the

fusion catalytic reation will continue without exploding or overpressuring the chamber....producing heat of 1800 degrees F....

which, transferred to a water pressurized vessel viat heat exchanger

fins on outside of the reaction chamber...WILL boil water, bringing

it to 800 degree 500 PSI live steam in sufficient volume to

drive a piston steam engine of 200 HP quite handily, producing

as much as 15 kilowatts for home use (220 and 120 volt single phase)

for only pennies per month maintaining the 12 volt battery charge for

the 400 watt filament heater. All in a package 3 feet long, 2 feet

wide, and 2 feet high.

And...a person could convert an aluminum volkwagon or corvair engine

to run off the steam generated....or even cobble up a steam engine

out of a wankel engine...from a Mazda for instance.....for CHEAP.

Inject the steam into the cylinders via a distributive manifold

tied into the cylinders through the sparkplug hole and ehaust the

steam via the exhaust valve manifold.

Put a 12 volt electric clutch on the flywheel of the engine and

engage it to drive an alternator or two or four.

Using automotive surplus equipment would make the build affordable.

Something to experiment with.

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Buddy from George, USA responded:

He is missing a few things...

First, we need to know what catalysts are being used and what special preparations have been done to the nano-nickel powder.

Also, nano-nickel powder is very toxic so there would need to be specific safety guidelines...

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On January 23, 2011 2:47 PM MST, Lawrence responded:

It doesn't require nano nickel powder....simple granular nickel powder will do. When filling the reaction

tube with hydrogen after adding the nickel powder, you must flush the tube in the vertical position with enough hydrogen to force the oxygen out of the tube....the oxygen being heavier than the hydrogen, the hydrogen gas will displace the oxygen and nitrogen and trace carbon dioxide of the atmosphere in the

reaction tube, leaving only pure hydrogen and nickel powder in the reaction chamber. Without oxygen,

the hydrogen WILL NOT BURN or explode in the reaction tube....Then then 400 watt filament heater

will bring the hydrogen gas to the 1100 degree Fahrenheit threshold for the fusion reaction to become

self sustaining. There are no other catalysts involved. It is the heat threshold that is the catalyst for this

reaction in a pure hydrogen atmosphere.

Because only micrograms of nickel are converted to copper with the release of lots of heat energy, the

reaction can be maintained for 6 months or more before the filament heater need be shut down and the

heat exchanger drench cooled to stop the reaction....then the reaction tube can be refilled with nickel

powder and hydrogen...and the process started again.

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On January 23, 2011 3:42 PM MST, Lawrence added:

It doesn't produce really energetic Gamma radiation, or it would penetrate 13 FEET of lead shielding. It is a point source of

mild gamma rays which are not energetic enough to engender secondary

radiation in the metal of the reaction tube or the heat exchanger

fins and tubing windings, or the water flashed to steam in the exchanger. And, because gamma rays die quickly with the square of the distance, 3/4 of an inch of lead shielding is NOT necessary. 1/4

inch of lead shielding (1/8 inch thicker than necessary) is all that

is required OUTSIDE the fins and coiled aluminum tubing of the

heat exchanger. Aluminum works very efficiently to transfer the

heat from the chamber by conduction and flash water to steam. 6160

aircraft aluminum tubing is plenty strong enough to stand the internal pressure of the steam.

There are no gas mixtures or other catalysts involved. The reaction

chamber must be flushed with pure hydrogen gas in the verticle position so the hydrogen gas displaces the heavier oxygen/nitrogen/carbon dioxide of the atmosphere...leaving only pure

hydrogen gas and the nickel powder in the reaction chamber.

The heating filament provides the heat threshold of the hydrogen gas/

nickel powder to start and maintain a catalytic reaction. The

catalyst is actually an energy (thermal energy) threshold.

Because there is no oxygen in the chamber...only pure hydrogen...when it is heated to 1100 degrees Fahrenheit by the filament, the gas

DOES NOT BURN or explode...so the chamber contains the reaction and

the heat is transferred by conduction of the chamber metal, by convection of the chamber gas, and by radiation to the heat exchanger

where the water is flashed to steam. Because only micrograms of nickel are converted to copper, the reaction can be maintained by the

filament above the catalytic energy threshold for 6 months or more...then shut off the filament heater, drench cool the heat exchanger which cools the reaction chamber and the gas below the

catalytic energy threshold...and the reaction stops....with no residual radioactivity. Then it can be recharged with more nickel

powder and pure hydrogen gas...the filament heater energized...and the reaction started again.

IF the home DIY builder isn't an idiot, they CAN build and operate

their own home catalytic steam/electric generator....and what they do on their

own property (away from the cities of course!) is their own damned

business. No steam boiler regulations, licenses, etc...NONE of that

crap.

As I get able this Spring, I am going to build one of these catalytic

reaction generators for my own purposes on my farm. Mine will be

portable enough to load in the back of a pickup and take anywhere.

And, NO!, I won't build one for someone else to have and operate.

Question of liability. I don't take responsibility for others experimentation or operation. I'm confident of my own abilities....

not yours.

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On January 23, 2011 6:14 PM MST, Lawrence added:

[...] This system requires only hydrogen gas (which I can make in wholesale

quantities) and nickel powder which I can stockpile. A few pounds

will last decades, a century or more....and I can teach my wife

how to charge the chamber with nickel powder and hydrogen...then just

flip a switch on the filament heater.

I make the hydrogen gas from aluminum wire cut into pellets and dropped into a distilled water/potassium hydroxide (lye) 50/50

solution. I have miles of aluminum wire I salvaged and bags of

potassium hydroxide powder to mix in black plastic 55 gallon chemical

drums.

You see, I can run the IC motors on my water well pump or one of

my electrical generators off the resultant Brown's gas, and when

trapped in a column, the hydrogen gas can be separated from the

oxygen with DC current and purified....so I can get 100% pure hydrogen gas for the hydrogen/nickel catalytic fusion reactor.

It's a matter of what I have on hand available right now.

I have high pressure aircraft grade aluminum tubing for heat exchanger/water steam flash generator. I have several flanged stainless steel flasks for the reaction chamber I picked up

surplus in the oil and gas industry around me.

So, I have the materials to make the fusion system work and now I have the time if I can stay healthy and mobile.