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OS:Magnetic Electron Pump

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Inventor set forth a solid state (no moving parts) electromagnetic device that he thought put out four times as much energy as was required to run it. He presented it to PESWiki as a possible open source project that would be simple to build from readily-available, inexpensive materials.

: &nbsp &nbsp "I call this device a Magnetic Electron Pump or MEP. It can be somewhat compared to pumping oil from the ground in that the pump doesn't use as much energy as the energy in the oil that is pumped out. In this case I am pumping a permanent magnet field (the oil) to deliver more energy than it takes to pump it out." -- 1in2out (inventor's pseudonym)

It turns out, though, that due to measurement issues and math errors, he agrees that the system is not what he had thought it was. Talk:OS:Magnetic Electron Pump


Official Website

We offer this PESWiki page as the primary location of this Magnetic Electron Pump open source project, in concert with the inventor.

Latest Developments

Oct. 8, 2007

Errors in the math are pointed out, and the inventor relents that he does not have what he thought he had.

Oct. 4, 2007

The inventor approaches PESWiki about open sourcing his overunity prototype designs.


As far as 1in2out can determine, this device is patentable due to no prior art, but he is not seeking a patent but is giving this IP away in a pure open open source manner.


On Oct. 4-6, 2007 "1in2out" wrote to Congress:Founder:Sterling D. Allan:

"I am an electronic engineer, and I have designed a number of products for a number of companies including my own which I have run for the past 20 years.

"Back in the 80’s I had the idea for, and designed a device to produce twice the energy it consumed. Being busy, I never got around to building it and seeing if it worked. As I am semiretired now and find a little more time on my hands, I decided to build this thing and see if it would work. Well it did, in fact it works exceptionally well. After some fine tuning, I had it producing a COP of 4. The input was 8 watts, and the output was 32.8 watts.

"It is very easy to build and get working, especially if you have some background in electronics. I built the first prototype in one day, using inexpensive and easy to find parts. There is nothing exotic about it, except maybe its looks, including how it works. No magic, ether, or zero-point energy theories are needed to explain it.

"It can be used stand-alone or in conjunction with other products and devices. All aspects of this device are scaleable up or down and can be calculated using standard electrical formulas.

"I would like to open source this device for the benefit of everyone -- no patents, no royalties, no licensing anyone and everyone can take it and run with it including companies wishing to build, market and sell derivatives.

"As far as I can tell it is patentable. I have only been able to locate one device that is anywhere near to my design, and it is not patented.

"I make no claims of nor show this device powering itself, or of being fed back upon itself. I offer it only as a way to reduce our consumption of fossil fuels and to produce more energy-efficient electrical products. It remains for others to determine if it can run itself."


Parts List

Soft steel welding rods [how many? what gauge? what length?]

speaker magnets

five ferrite magnets: 3 9/16" dia 1 5/16" hole 3/8" thick

copper wire [what guage?, how much?]

electronics [elaborate?]

capacitors [elaborate]


Chronetics Inc, PG-11A Mt. Vernon, N.Y., Pulse Generator

Schematic and Explanation Doc

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Page 3 excerpt, enlarged:

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"I have run this device in resonant mode as well as pulsed mode. It works quite well either way. But so far I have gotten a higher COP out of the pulsed mode." --MEPman


"Input is tougher to calculate, being a pulse. Output, though being rectified and filtered, is just straight measurement of voltage and current." --MEPman


will be posted here as they emerge


'Operational Theory of the Magnetic Electron Pump'

by 1in2out

Less energy is needed to bounce the permanent magnet (PM) field Out of the core than what the field can deliver in energy. Magnetic field lines prefer soft steel 7000 to 1 over air, so at quiescence, most PM field lines are flowing through the steel core. When the primary is pulsed, the core now becomes an electromagnet with the polarity the same as the permanent magnet which reinforces the PM field instead of destroying it. (This will work in the opposite direction as well forcing more field lines into the core but it would then buck the PM fieid and eventually demagnetize it.) Field lines now flow out of the core instead of into it, (direction is reversed), so the PM field must now expand out through the air inducing an output pulse in the secondary winding. The input pulse and the expanding PM field are in phase with each other therefore additive as they pass to the output. A small amount of energy, turning the core into an electromagnet, will push the PM field out and in doing so will transformer [?] through to the output. This smaller amount of energy is buttressed by the larger PM field which has been expelled from the core. As the PM field expands through the device it induces even more energy to the output than just the energy of the pulse required to push the field out. The large combined field then collapses back to its quiescent state and passes back through the secondary, inducing another output pulse of the same magnitude but opposite polarity. This second pulse out is created by the steel core and inductance and it is free energy as we have already taken the input pulse back out through transformer action. 1 pulse in 2 pulses out. You can picture this thing as breathing in and out very efficiently and rapidly as the PM field expands and contracts transferring power to the output coils.


Company: not yet

Once this design is ready for making kits or later for going commercial, a company will be formed to coordinate that element. Meanwhile, PES Network, Inc., which owns PESWiki will manage the business needs of the project.

Inventor: anon

The inventor prefers to remain anonymous to the public in this project. He goes by "1in2out".


list here


See Talk:OS:Magnetic Electron Pump


email: [] - forwards to the inventor, who wishes to remain anonymous

See also PESWiki:Contact

See also


Directory:Solid State Generators

- OS

- News:Open Source

- Main Page

- PES Network Inc.

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