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Mark Thorson brought this to our attention:

-- SilverThunder 18:58, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Steorn's Orbo Compared to Battery
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Directory:John Kuhles brought to our attention this video from Steorn. It was posted back on Dec. 9, so I imagine many of you have already seen it.

some additional details on the orbo power cell

Esa Juhani Ruoho provided the following transcript. (By the way, Esa has a lot of interesting things on his user page here at PESWiki. You ought to take a glance at it.)

OK so a lot of people are asking: What's the difference between an Orbo power cell and traditional batteries? Traditional batteries come in two basic forms, what are known as primary batteries, or disposable batteries, which, once you have drained the energy, they're disposable, you throw them away - you should recycle them. Secondary batteries are the types of batteries that you would see in things like your phone or in power-cubes and so forth. Typically Lithium-Ion or Lithium-Polymer technology, and the difference is once you've drained the energy in them, you can actually re-charge them and replenish the energy.

What is common between primary and secondary batteries is that the energy stored in them and they are empty storage devices - is stored as a electro-chemical process. So, the output of these types of batteries in terms of voltage is ultimately defined the inherent chemistry that it's using.

What is different about an Orbo power cell, and again, we showed a brief example of building, hand-building a very simple cell is that, first of all, it is not an electrochemical device, so there is no ion transfer, there's no electrolyte and so forth. It is based on the electromagnetic field. And the second and probably the most difficult to accept aspect of it is that it is an energy-generating device rather than an energy-storage device.

What we showed in the clip building the tiny, hand-building the tiny little cell, was a cell that had a voltage, an open-circuit voltage of VOC .3 .4 of a volt. One of the things that we said as we were building that is that what makes it peculiar is that as you increase the surface area, the VOC also increases.

So, what we have here is a hand-built version of the same, which is longer and wound up a bit like a capacitor, and what we'll demonstrate is that the VOC of this which is a simply, longer strips of the same materials, is at about 2.5 volts, I think in this case, it's about 2.5, 2.6 volts. That would be an unexpected result electrochemically, as in, you typically see voltages of 3,7 volts in Lithium-Ion batteries, 1.2 and so forth, and again, if we unwound this and cut this in half we would find that the voltage itself reduced.

Probably the most interesting aspect to demonstrate that the Orbo power cell is not a traditional battery is that if you short out a traditional battery for an extended period of time, ultimately you drain all or virtually all of the electrochemical energy that's stored in it. And so, if you short it out and leave it for an extended period of time, remove the short and then measure it, you'll find that the voltage is either significantly below it's inherent voltage, or if it's left long enough, it will be series. So, in order to demonstrate the fundamental difference between an Orbo power cell and the traditional battery, what we're going to do is short it out, and we're going to leave it shorted out approximately 30 minutes, and then demonstrate that the voltage in open-circuit immediately bounces back to this 2.5 odd volts.

So, all that I'm doing here is shorting the positive and negative and as you can see on the scope, as expected, we go to zero volts or very close to zero volts, about a few milli-volts which is simply the offset of the oscilloscope of itself, and we'll leave this running for 30 minutes.

(screen says: (Recorded over 36 minutes))

Ok, so we've had this Orbo power cell shorted out now for I think about 30 minutes. So, what I'm going to do is remove the short, simply pull the wires apart, and what you'll notice is that we're immediately back to our 2.5 volt voltage level. What you would expect if this was an energy storage device such as a capacitor, is obviously we would've drained the capacitor at this stage, it's been 30 minutes in short circuit - or - if it was a traditional electrochemical cell, we would see at least some drop-off in voltage, but probably after 30 minutes, a very significant drop-off of voltage.

What we're really demonstrating here is that unlike a traditional battery, what Orbo really is is an energy generation technology. In terms of what it looks like in it's production format, is that we aim for each cell to produce 2 and a half volts, and our standard Orbo power-cell is a 5 volt device, so it is two of these, professionally manufactured and encapsulated, that produce 5 volts, so it's two in series, so again, just to demonstrate that, that if I take the product-sized version of this, what you can see is a - just over a five-volt output. Again, 5 volt is chosen because our primary target market for this is mobile consumer electronics.

In terms of how this type of Orbo power cell is put into a product, what we do is we will place as many of these as necessary to give a certain power output, and we use these devices then to trickle charge a standard lithium-ion battery. Lithium-ion battery will then provide the direct power to the device that we're powering, so in the case of the O-Cube, behind the USB-electronics is a Lithium-Ion battery, and trickle-charging the lithium-ion battery is the sequence of the Orbo power cells.

The Ophone is identical, in that in the case of the phone we have built in a number of the Orbo power cells. Those power cells continuously charge Lithium-ion battery. (Whilst) the Lithium-Ion battery then actually powers the phone directly.

Transcribed by Esa Juhani Ruoho / /

-- SilverThunder 17:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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