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Event:2015:June: Rosch 15 kW and 100 kW Demo Measurement

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Compiled by Congress:Founder:Sterling D. Allan

Pure Energy Systems News

May 29, 2015

A working listing of the equipment we plan to have with us, and generalized protocols for Blog:Rosch's 15 kW and 100 kW Demo starting around June 16 near Cologne, Germany, at Rosch' facility.

We welcome your input to help make sure we can do a professional job of validating the technology.

Note: Because of the wider girth of the 15 kW and 100 kW tubes, they will not be anchored to the wall, just the floor. The generator and the air compressor will be situated on the floor next to the tube. The three windows near the bottom of the 100 kW tube will allow for inspecting the base, minus what is obscured by the chain assembly. Because the generator will be situated on the floor, then the main task will be to rule out a hidden wire running to that generator. It would be good if Rosch could situate that generator on top of a plexiglass base. They may already have it anchored to the floor.

Key Links

Relevant to the demo... - Official website. The site was down but is now operational again. Albeit not as it was. They say paid hackers have damaged the site and it is having to be re-constructed.

PESWiki: Directory:Thrust Kinetic Generator by Rosch Innovations AG | There was an error working with the wiki: Code[2]

: (Earlier Demo) Directory:Gaia-Energy -- Global Association for Independent Energy & Altruism | Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo

PESN Key Stories: 100 MW Rosch systems in operation | My reasons for believing Topic: Rosh buoyant power plant Gaia buoyancy-power plant - how does it work? (largely skeptical) latest


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Latest: Directory:Buoyancy > Directory:Thrust Kinetic Generator by Rosch Innovations AG > Blog:Rosch's 15 kW and 100 kW Demo - A blog to track progress surrounding the June ~16 demo of two free energy Kinetic Power Plant demo systems near Cologne, Germany and the tour of the 1&5 MW plant construction sites in Croatia and Slovenia, respectively. (PESWiki May 29, 2015)


I'm hoping Rosch will consider streaming the demo while we're there, measuring it. I'll have my webcam (not as high fidelity as what they had), which I'll broadcast via my PESNetwork YouTube channel. It would be good to have two livestream feeds going.


The following individuals plan to be involved in the PES entourage.

PES Network Contingent

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Stuart Campbell - my associate here at PES, from New Zealand

Free Energy Blog:2014:05:20 - from India, has professional experience in the assessment and measurement of electrical output, on behalf of PES. He will be the primary person performing measurements. Already has purchased his plane tickets. Company: Mindlogic Renewables

John Broberg - Of Vision Lighting, from Santa Clara, California, USA interested in bringing to US market, starting with a local 5 MW desalination plant in Santa Clara. He has already purchased his planet tickets to Germany. I've known John Broberg for about a year. I had dinner with him last year at the Events:2014:ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference.

Previously had planned visit to Rosch, June 15,16, independently, but would like to be part of entourage, especially to Croatia and Slovenia:

Jay Pavasia - of Jeruz Energy, which has helped roll out Directory:MagneGas successfully in India, among other things. He is interested in introducing Rosch's KPP to India. I met Jay at the 2012 Events:2012:ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference. We also visited a technology together in Las Vegas. He helped me get my Visa to India.

Nearby associates known by Rosch already would like to be part of entourage:

Directory:Ronny Korsberg - Oslo Norway, purchased 5 kW AuKW for his home. I traveled with Ronny in 2013 go visit Fabrice Andre's Refuge7 in France, while we were both attending the demonstration of the Yildiz Magnet Motor in Geneva Switzerland. (Story)

J.D. - from The Netherlands, is with Directory:Global Breakthrough Energy Movement (BEM). I met J.D. in person a the Global BEM conferences in Hivlersum Holland and Boulder Colorado, USA. J.D. was an avid listener to my radio show, and I valued his input during the shows.

Would like to join us for the Croatia 1 MW showplant portion:

Paolo Mazzorana of D'Ambros SNC in Belluno, Italy. Interested in bringing renewable energy technologies to Italy. I met him in person at the 2011 E-Cat 1-MW plant demonstration in Bologna, Italy, attended by ~30 people.

Measurement Equipment

3-phase clamp-on meter

Gowtham will be bringing one of these.

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Single wire clamp-on meter

Gowtham will be bringing one of these.

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Multifunction Meter
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Gowtham said: "This is the exact meter which I have. .....It can measure 3 phase voltage, ampere and also total power in units"

Infrared Camera

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Stuart will be bringing the latest FLIR C2 Thermal Imaging Camera

It has extra features such as:

4,800 pixels (older units may be 480 pixels)

Feature outline - shows the outline as well as the thermals so you can see clearer what you are looking at. Called Image Enhancement

3" Screen (Touch Screen)

Saves as JPG photo's


To measure rotation speed of generator shaft.

Strong Flashlight

To illuminate inside the tubes, which both have windows for observation.

Proposed Measurement Regimen

We hope to measure/probe all of the following for both the 15 kW and the 100 kW demos. This will require access via a lift to the top of the tubes (if that is where the equipment is located). Most likely the equipment will be located at the bottom area of the Tube.

Power going to the air compressor (Depends on size of motor. Possibly single phase but if a big unit, as we see in the picture, could be 3 phase).

3-phase power coming from the generator.

Power going to each item in the load (could be a mix of 3 phase and single phase).

Infrared thermal camera photographs of all possible locations of "hidden" wires, such as on the floor around the tube.

Carefully look through the windows of the 100 kW system, especially at the base and up the interior sides, inspecting for any "hidden wires."

A look inside the control cabinets.

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100-W-rated bulbs (e.g. Philips) and fixtures can be obtained locally.

Measurement Protocol Suggestions from Harbert

Preface memo from Sterling. This will be simplified greatly with the Plexiglas demo on wheels.

: From: Harbert, Daniel K.

: Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 1:05 PM

: Subject: 15KW TESTING

: Sterling,

: Although I am a Nuclear Engineer and not an Electrical one, I believe I can offer you some thoughts to help you approach this Test.

: A detailed physical inspection for hidden wires needs to be made and documented in a rigorous manner. All sources of compressed air/ N2 bottles battery banks/inverters and how they are connected in the complex should be identified in your report.

: The compressor motor should be removed from its baseplate and visually inspected and photographed.

: The wiring from the generator to the motor should be confirmed to be the only wires feeding the motor.

: The compressor should be removed from its baseplate and visually inspected for any sources of a hidden air supply.

: Any compressed air tanks on the skid should be removed from their mounting and examined for sources of a hidden air supply.

: The name Plate data for the Generator, compressor and motor should be photographed and recorded. The serial numbers should be confirmed by the manufactures to have been built to the company standard for the model number identified on the name plate. If the compressor spec have some proprietary information this should be noted. The compressors power requirements however should be available.

: A quick search on the internet has volumes of information FOR Portable Load Banks.

: In my opinion you need to RENT a portable resistive load bank from a local company in Germany.

: The rental company should be able to help you validate the accuracy of the loading indication of their load bank instruments with documentation traceable to a standard.

: It should be sized to be double the capacity of the generator. The maximum Generator loading should be well understood by you before commencing the test to avoid damaging the generator. The cables connecting the load bank to the generator should be documented in your report.

: If the company really wants to independently test their device they should front the money for you to rent one.

: If that fails donations should pick up the tab if you can come up with a cost estimate.

: You need to call companies in this country to get an idea of what size would be appropriate for 15KW load and what the pricing would be here.

: The load needs to be applied long enough to rule out Batteries. Develop the size of Battery needed to run the compressor motor for 24 HRS.

: The Specs for the motor and the compressor should be well known to you before you go.

: Once the unit is running under no load and is self-sustaining you need to establish how long it can continue to run when the units generator is disconnected from the compressor motor by means of a switch that you control at whim. You need to repeat this test when the unit is fully loaded with your load bank.

: These tests need to be repeated to establish a baseline.

: The Air supply tubing, all valves and capacity of the system and all system pressure sensors need to be documented and well understood. The potential for an air supply from a hidden source needs to be ruled out. The capability to isolate the air supply by means of a ball valve you control needs to be available. A pressure senor for the sir supply needs to established and connected to a recorder. By randomly switching on or off the power supply and/or air supply it will greatly complicate any issue concerning intelligent switching by the owner, because the response every time it is done should very closely match the baseline you established at the beginning of the TEST. Delays in the system response such as bubbles in the tank visible through the windows will indicate a hidden source of supply if switching off occurs without any capability for the owner to anticipate these occurrences.

: Consideration for performing the test during a weekend or after hours should be given to allow isolating all power to the building at the Main Panel for 24 HRS.

: Any of the above considerations which are determined to be unnecessary should be addressed in the report and the basis for which the determination was made should be clearly documented including Owner objections.

: Dan Harbert