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Compiled by Congress:Founder:Sterling D. Allan

Pure Energy Systems News

September 25, 2014

Updated June 29, 2015

In October, 2013, at the Global Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference in Boulder, Colorado, in his presentation, my friend and associate, Directory:Michael (Mike) Waters, previous President of the Directory:New Energy Systems Trust (NEST) we founded 2.5 years ago, showed a wind turbine design he came up with that is ridiculously simple. It's basically a squirrel cage arrangement set 90-degrees perpendicular to the incoming air, diverting all the incoming air to the perimeter where the torque is.

Let me say that again. The further away from the rotation point you are, the more torque you get. This design harnesses the wind at the extreme perimeter -- only. All the incoming wind is deflected there, where it achieves the maximum torque conversion. Let me say part of that again: all of the incoming air is utilized.

Furthermore, Mike says that even the "drag" effect contributes rather than diminishes in this design, much like a ridge accelerates air flow. A good analogy for this is when you are driving on the freeway close behind a semi-truck, your mileage improves, not just from his breaking the wind but because he is actually pulling you to a certain extent, so his mileage goes down.

Also, Mike's turbine will start rotating at less than 1 mph wind -- so slight that you can't even tell there is a breeze.

Compare Mike's design to the typical three-bladed turbine you see deployed in most commercial applications nowadays. At low speed, most of the wind (like 95%) misses the blades, and the bulk of the blade is near to point of rotation, where the least torque is.

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Another advantage is that birds will have no problem seeing this one and will fly around it, in contrast to the 3-bladed designs that they try to fly through, with often fatal results.

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Finally, it's very quiet. That, alone, is a huge advantage over the 3-blade design.

Inasmuch as Mike's focus for the past dozen years or so, mainly under the radar, has been on exotic free energy technologies, both in helping other inventors as well as his own innovations, he wasn't really motivated to put much time into pursuing his wind turbine design. Wind is not nearly as reliable as some of the exotics that harvest energy from other plugs in the wheelwork of nature continuously, inexhaustibly.

But a NASA aerodynamicist tested the design for several months, and someone from the audience at his Global BEM lecture built another prototype. What they found, independently, was so unbelievable that Mike didn't dare tell us the numbers until he had more corroboration. He certainly did not want me making any announcements until further validation.

I met the second guy at the Events:2014:ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference in July, who repeated to me what Mike had told us in private.

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Using a wind tunnel to compare Mike's design to the conventional 3-blade design, they were getting numbers like 50x more efficient. FIFTY TIMES!!

In the wind industry, if you can get 5% improvement, you'll be making all kinds of friends and business deals. Mike's exhibits ONE THOUSAND TIMES MORE IMPROVEMENT THAN THAT!

Geoffrey Miller of Directory:Geoffrey S. Miller's Energybat Labs, who I've done extensive There was an error working with the wiki: Code[1] on in recent days, replicated a ~4-foot diameter Waters turbine. We didn't get around to uncovering it from its tarp while I was there on June 19, 2015, but I could see its shape under the tarp. Geoff told of an early demonstration he saw Mike do inside a car. He had the person turn their heater blower to full, and he placed a 3-bladed turbine in front if it, and it barely turned. Then he had them turn the blower to its lowest setting, and he took a similar diameter turbine of his squirrel cage design and held it back about 2-3 feet, and it was spinning rapidly from that low air flow.

What this means is that the size of the turbine can be much smaller to perform the same amount of energy harvesting as the much larger and cumbersome three-bladed design. You could easily transport and assemble this design and it can be used as a wind or water turbine.

Furthermore, the design is potentially much sturdier, hence able to hold up to high winds.

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Speaking of high winds, with Mike's design you can turn the turbine 90 degrees like the old-fashioned wind turbines. The tail fin would keep it in that orientation. I'm guessing that you would still be harnessing the wind, but you would be harvesting maybe 1/5 to 1/10 of it and it would self limit rpm.

Mike is also involved with a number of other energy technologies and inventors and several are being tested with this turbine. This includes SERPS and Kairos TGen, MES generator, a generator from India, several options from Directory:Geoffrey S. Miller's Energybat Labs and Al Throckmorton's Lord's Pump. Mike feels they should be able to conservatively boost output by at least 4 times using the SERPS/TGen alone.

By connecting a growing number of energy breakthroughs and inventors, Mike hopes that more people will be motivated to collaborate rather than try to compete. The more inventors align in the energy field, the greater the chance of success. Mike discusses more about collaboration on his website.

A provisional patent has been filed on the design and it is also being covered under a global copyright trust structure.

Mike is open sourcing for people to build for themselves and basic license arrangement for manufacturing. The design can be built in many different ways – as a blimp, windsock/parachute/umbrella, applied to wind or water. Blades can be made in bands or individually molded, fixed or variable pitch. The main disk or entry tube can be stationary or rotate. The generator can be mounted at the hub or the edge.

There is already interest in rolling out the design in the US, Brazil, India, Africa and China. A 12’ test is currently being built in Australia and water turbine variations in the US and Peru.

BEAR IN MIND: Consider how far ahead this concept is from the mainstream -- orders of magnitude better. This illustrates the genius that is found among us in the "fringe." Mike is a significant player and inventor among the "fringe" free energy researchers. Comparatively speaking, this turbine concept, as superior as it is, was bland to him, so he put it on the back-burner until recently, favoring the more exciting exotic free energy technologies that will make this one obsolete. So part of the "Waters Effect," as I named it, is a "Waters syndrome" that is a commentary, not on the inventor, but on the skeptics who are so far behind in their understanding and openness to new ideas that they can't even grasp where the inventor is coming from and just assume he must be wrong -- not from data, but from prejudice. These skeptics are not true scientists but are dogmatists -- stuck in the rut of status quo paradigms. I predict that as blatantly obvious as the Waters turbine is, the skeptics will poke at it and try to discredit it.

Official Websites - Presently points to this PESWiki page - Mikes page about this on his site.


Comparison between 3-bladed and MW Turbine

There are two videos at presently number #13 and #14, with titles #13 MW WIND TURBINE TEST 2013 and #14 3 BLADE TURBINE TEST 2013 which show a comparison between the two systems with the same wind input.

Waters Turbine -- Blows the Competition Away -- At Least 20x Better


(YouTube / PESNetwork December 22, 2014)

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Presentation at Global BEM 2013


(YouTube / GlobalBEM January 27, 2014)


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Geoffrey Miller replica

Image source: by Geoffrey Miller of Directory:Geoffrey S. Miller's Energybat Labs



Water's Effect - portion of Sterling's PowerPoint presentation given to the International Conference on Free Software in Porto Alegre, Brazil.

Third party and direct comparison test

Quoting from

: Third party and direct comparison test

: There have been three separate third party tests, including computer flow analysis. My own direct comparative tests against a conventional high performance wind turbine in a broad range of conditions confirm theory. We ran direct comparisons in real world conditions for days because 3rd party results seemed too high. An aerodynamicist study over several months of tests found a maximum of 122 times more efficient at 14 mph.

: The conventional design was a molded precision product with an accurate airfoil. Mine was far from optimized, using no airfoils in order to build at low cost. Comparing my 4' design against a stock 5' three blade, under the same load, the conventional product starts at over 7 mph and produces very little torque or rpm at that speed. My turbine, under the same load starts at under 1 mph. If the square force relationship is used that is 49 times more force required to turn the conventional design. If the cube rule is used the difference is 343 times. Then there is a size difference. The actual formula is more complex and varies with wind speed but the results are interesting. Start-up velocity is just one factor but this shows that a much broader wind velocity range can be utilized.

: In analyzing many wind turbine polars, real world generator efficiency range usually results in electrical output falling somewhere between square and cube relationship with wind speed.

: Another interesting data point, under extreme shaft load, the conventional turbine would not turn, even at 28 mph. My design in the same conditions self starts at 11 mph.

: Test equipment involved a prony brake, rpm meter and wind meter. Accuracy of both wind and rpm meters was within 5%. Prony brake measurements were comparative and direct, utilizing the same shaft, load and conditions for both designs.

The Waters turbine - pdf document by Mike Waters

: [Objective] Optimizing energy extraction from a moving fluid

: The goal of a wind or water turbine

: Convert the force of a fluid passing through a given area into electrical or mechanical force.

: Force increases by the cube with velocity

: Waters Turbine approach

# Utilize as many of the molecules as possible.

# Accelerate all flow prior to extraction of energy.

# Divert all flow to the maximum point of leverage.

# Place all of the blade area at both the maximum point of leverage and the highest flow velocity.

: There are two choices for accelerating flow. Divert around an object or constrict through. Diverting flow to the outside provides more leverage for a given size object. Generally, large costs more than small. Complex costs more than simple. Here is a basic design that meets the criteria.

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: In the above illustration, all of the flow has to go around the back plate, accelerating in the process. A band of blades is mounted around the perimeter at both the maximum point of leverage and maximum flow velocity. As a result, all of the fluid is utilized and accelerated to maximum velocity prior to use.

In the News

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Latest: Directory:Wind > There was an error working with the wiki: Code[1] > Directory:Waters Effect Turbine - Years ago, FE activist, leader, and inventor, Directory:Michael (Mike) Waters conceived of a wind turbine design that is ridiculously simple. It's basically a squirrel cage arrangement 90-degrees perpendicular to the incoming air, diverting all the incoming air to the perimeter where the torque is. Duh! (PESWiki June 29, 2015)

Open Source Free Energy-- Harnessing the Wheelwork of Nature - Presentation given to the Event:International Conference on Free Software (FISL) in Porto Alegre, Brazil May 10, 2014 15:00.

Discussion of Waters Effect came toward the end of the presentation.

Free Energy Blog:2014:05:04 - An index of topics covered, including new open source project (Free Energy Blog May 14, 2014)

Free Energy Blog:2014:04:27 - This presentation at the Global BEM conference in October, 2013 was one of my very favorite, not just at that conference, but ever. I love his dry British humor and his brilliance. (Free Energy Blog April 27, 2014)

Event:2013:Global Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference - October conference where Mike first presented this concept.


Mike Waters, President of NEST

email: hpcconcepts {at}