Talk:Directory:OC MPMM Magnet Motor

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Next Test: Check for Degaussing

On Jan. 4, 2008, New Energy Congress member, Congress:Former Member:Mark Anthony Dansie wrote:

Looks impressive -- better than anything I have seen. Next test would be see if any degaussing happens.

Acceleration is a Breakthrough

On Jan. 5, 2008, New Energy Congress member, Congress:Founder:Sterling D. Allan wrote:

Achieving acceleration from just magnets interacting, as appears to be the case here, is truly remarkable. It certainly isn't ready for market not close but it is proof of concept that magnets can provide motive force. That is groundbreaking.

The next thing will be to show that no degaussing is taking place. For this to be a valuable effect, not just interesting science, you need to show that the acceleration is not at the expense of magnets loosing their strength through some new scientific discovery.

Constant Attraction Achieved

On Jan. 9, 2008, Robert Calloway wrote:

After studying this design further, it seems a serious break through has been found by these guys. The rotating stator magnet(s) allow the (diametrically placed) rotor magnets to obtain pure attraction through out the whole rotor rotation process. Repel has been eliminated in this design. The north pole of the rotor magnet is attracted to the south pole of the stator magnet. As the (diametrically placed) rotor magnet bloch wall approaches, the north pole of the stator magnet flips around to attract the south pole of the rotor magnet. Drag is only felt in the exit process. This is easily overcome by the other properly placed stator magnets. Magnetic flux depletion is of no concern in this design. Repel hammering is what kills magnets. There is no repel in this sweet design, only pure attraction. Simple harnessing of electron spin.

Build It And They Will Come

On Jan. 6, 2008, New Energy Congress member, Todd Hathaway wrote:

It's easy enough to reproduce - so build it yourself and post your own videos of this proof of concept model.

Need to Rule out Saturation

On Jan. 5, 2008, User:Legendre wrote:

Incidentally, it's not only important to analyze the magnetic elements for

possible degaussing, but also for possible saturation or supersaturation.

Unconfirmed: Something apparently causes the device to stop every few

hours, though it may be immediately restarted. If so, the mechanism behind

this odd behavior must be understood. I would tend to guess that the

magnets are becoming saturated, and require a bit of relaxation time

before the mechanism can again operate.

Very Significant

On Jan. 5, 2008, New Energy Congress advisor, Directory:James Dunn wrote:

This is very significant.

Cool Head is Good

On Jan. 5, 2008, RunningBare wrote:

I for one hope they both keep their feet on the ground and continue to research and experiment before they start shouting OU or similar. But I gotta admit, I'm very excited about this!

A too dark clip

On Jan. 5, 2008, User:Niente wrote:

Maybe I'm repeating myself, but here we have another "bad quality video". Shot in the dark and zoomed too close to see the whole machine.

If one really built such a motor, why to document it in such a bad way?

I'm not saying that it is surely a hoax, but in these conditions a tiny wire and an electric motor can be hidden with little effort.

I'm saying only that it isn't so difficult to shot a clear video of the running machine, so where is it? -)

Hidden Drive Motor

On Jan. 5, 2008, S.S. wrote by email:

Has anyone else noticed the little red light blinking on the "dark side" upper part of the image on the video ? There is a reason why he has poor lighting on 2 sides - - - it's the little drive motor he has driving the thing . . . go figure.

See what happens when you ask him to upload a video with all 4 sides well lighted . . .

Reply to

On Jan. 7, 2008, User:Sephiroth wrote:

I would like to point out to the person who sent in a comment by email that the little red light you see is obviously the laser tacheometer! I am not saying that it is not driven by a motor... we will not know until it is replicated... just don't let your eyes show you what you want to see. You have to be objective.

Best Magnet Motor Video Yet

On Jan. 8, 2008, New Energy Congress member, Congress:Advisor:Kenneth M. Rauen wrote:

Fascinating! This is the BEST video recording I have

seen of a magnet motor! When it gets going (through

several tries), it actually accelerates!!! The trials

show friction-related losses, which makes the

demonstration even more convincing.

Asymmetry is Critical

On Jan. 9, 2008, wrote:

In the case of the magnet motor, it is likely that the asymmetry is critical.

Follow the original exactly.

Then figure out what it is doing.

Symmetrically laid out 'copies' are likely to never work, or show the basic effect, at all.

As near as I can figure, the asymmetry is key, ie, keeping the magnetic field 'squirting' (like a wet seed) past the stick point, and that requires a lack of balance to work, not balance.

Note the secondary pair that were stopped are NOT symmetrical in their positions. They are obviously still influencing the system, assisting the field like it is being squirted, or tumbled down a hill.

Sort like in one orientation..thump..thump..squirt! -repeat (squirt!-by the counter-rotating magnet- this is where the majority of the 'over unity' action is), where speed of rotation is overcoming just a HAIR of 'lightspeed' mechanics of the field.

As well, you have a ROTATING AC field there with the counter rotation magnet, with a non-liner component with respects to orientation and field strength, and rotation. This is what catapults you slightly, just by a HAIR past the mass-speed-field constants (which aren't really 'the limit' just a very high number). As we well know, in lightspeed electro-mass terms, all we need is a small amount of egress. E=MC^2, and all that.

And there it is.


On Jan. 11, 2008, Brian Hafner wrote:

If you want to figure out if this thing works take two D.C. motors with two variable power supplies. Monitor the current vs. rpm. If it works then you will find a spot where the current goes to a negative amount. But my feeling is that this is a bogus setup. If you look at the brightened version, you will see that on the third try, he spins the stator magnet only once and pulls his hand away unlike the first two. Then the motor starts. You could easily put a hard drive motor battery and remote under the solid colored disk.

(OT) Prototyping New Idea

I have been reading up on this idea since joining PES Wiki a couple of days ago, I see there have been thousands of comments made along the way.

I think asymmetry is the key too, as that is the idea in my magnet motor. It stands to reason that a symmetrical system would find a comfy place and rest there. Just thinking of a simple simple version it's like a magnetic compass. There has to be some way of splitting a circle into divisions that the magnets can't get comfy with.

Can someone here tell me how to get my idea prototyped? >>> Perpetually Rotating Bar Magnet Arrangement