Talk:Directory:HAFC Hydro Assist Fuel Cell

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Dubious 50%+ Claim

On Dec. 11, 2007, New Energy Congress member, Congress:Former Member:Mark Anthony Dansie wrote:

I have some problems with the claims made. I spent many months in the USA testing hydrogen boosting devices..mainly on diesels.

Anecdotal evidence I find is unreliable. I do, however, believe in accurate scientific methodologies and would welcome this device to be sent to a professional group such as the Environmental Technology Verification Program in Canada. Here is a test they did on a device with a similar out put.

As you can see only 4% was achieved.

I admit, diesels are not as good as gasoline engines when it comes to Hydrogen injection. Typically my testing and data I have viewed from other companies suggest 0% through to 12%...typically 6% depending on driving habits.

On new engines it is typically less than 6%. On old engines I have seen up to 15% savings, mainly due to the hydrogen assisting the removal of carbon deposits and cleaning up the engine. However after several months the unit can be removed and the engine still runs 10% better which supports the above theory.

I have also purchased, reproduced and tested over 30 different designs available in the market place. None ever tested over 50% savings.

One of the most honest and reliable people in this field is NEC's own Francis Giroux. He claims around 15% to 25% which I believe is possible with gasoline vehicles.

I could talk for hours on the science behind this technology, but I an afraid 50% is a little out of the observations I have made.

One way to settle this is to have the technology independently tested (ie the ETV Canada) or even by CARB in the USA.