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On March 30 a Directory:Pete's "Zero Amp" Electronics was posted apparently showing Pete Sumaruck running his "Directory:Pete's "Zero Amp" Electronics" motor for three hours with no diminishing of input battery levels or generation of heat in the driving components, while the same set-up without his technology would supposedly only power the output for two hours, draining the batteries. (WorldOpinionView Apr. 2, 2009)

The following are some comments provided by New Energy Congress advisor, Directory:Thomas Valone regarding this setup.

Part 1 of 3: Letter from Tom

On April 02, 2009 11:40 PM Mountain, Tom wrote:

Todd,

Directory:James Dunn convinced me that Peter was faking the results and came away pretty discouraged (see There was an error working with the wiki: Code[1]).

The "100% efficiency" quoted in the article from World View Opinion is certainly questionable if it is also overunity (which means above 100%).

The new video looks interesting but there are TWO BIG problems called storage batteries that always should raise red flags in your mind (apparently one battery did not provide enough power), along with no acknowledged consideration by Peter of the POWER FACTOR as he does his calculations, which was Directory:Joseph Newman Motor's big failing (difference between average real and reactive power). Keep in mind that Peter is only lighting a 75 watt light bulb and a 40 watt fan, according to his narration on the video, with TWO BIG deep-discharge storage batteries, that do not have to drive either one of them at full wattage to look convincing. Did you ever see the "unit" run something without any storage batteries in the circuit?? If his device really works, no batteries should ever be needed.

- I thought we agreed that you would be bringing "a unit" back for testing?

- Did he change his mind about letting you have one?

- Did you get to work on one assembly to confirm if programming the inverter was the only new ingredient?

I don't understand how two scientific guys like you both could come away with completely opposite points of view about something so important to agree upon! Did you measure the AC power accurately to know the difference between 'peak voltage, average voltage or RMS voltage in your measurements and confirm and overunity output in real power?

Jim's email to me is reprinted There was an error working with the wiki: Code[2]. Some type of independent quantitative evaluation that makes engineering sense seems to be very important here, rather than the fact that you simply saw it run for hours and then email a bunch of people to get them excited. From this type of reporting, I can only counter with the fact that I'll be happy to run a fan and a light bulb for three hours with TWO BIG storage batteries and a special inverter if you want to take a video of it and sign a million dollar contract afterwards too.

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[Above] is a reprint of the important part of a summary sheet explaining AC power from a Merrill Publishers college textbook (Introductory Circuit Analysis by Boylestad) which I used when I taught the course years ago. You need to compute the power triangle of watts (P) and VARs (Q) to get the total apparent power (hypotenuse) of volt-amperes (S), before anyone their right ming in can quote AC power numbers with honest accuracy and confidence. Study the sheet and manipulate the triangle with his real (average) power numbers in watts to understand how easy it is for Peter to create this smokescreen.

As an example, when I spoke with Directory:Joseph Newman Motor at a New Energy conference in Denver years ago, he was demonstrating his "overunity" smaller unit using standard electrical utility meters which I told him only measure real power, he actually got angry at me! However, it is well known that the utility company only charges people for resistive real power (P), which lets us play with the other two variables (Q and S) if you know what you are doing.

Part 2 of 3: Letter from Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Dunn

To: 'Thomas Valone'

Cc: 'Sterling D. Allan'

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:59 AM

Subject: RE: Fw: Sterling's Video PES Saga with Pete

Tom – When we arrived we were told that a certain input current and output current had been recorded, which we assumed was accurate and validated.

When we asked to see the system operate later, we discovered that the input current was not being properly measured (or even measured at all!)

Yes – This reeks of fraud, since any electrician of any background knows that current is measured in series with the load, not across a short piece of the wire that is delivering the input current (unless it is a calibrated shunt).

When we asked to look at the signal on the output we were denied, and we were not allowed to impose any load on the motors.

This gentleman told some interesting and entertaining stories, but demonstrated very little knowledge of power and energy, including no knowledge of power factor, and how to measure electrical parameters, etc.

Need I say any more – Not even a good parlor trick.

Part 3 of 3: Letter from Tom

On April 03, 2009 12:31 AM Mountain, Tom wrote:

Subject: AC Electricity "overunity" example appended

Hi Todd,

I forgot to mention something else regarding Peter Sumaruck and the AC electric power formula sheet from the Boylestad textbook (Introductory Circuit Analysis, Merrill Pub., Chapter 19) that is attached. Specifically, look at the circuit diagram EXAMPLE at the bottom that I will state is "clearly overunity".

The example on the lower left that I deliberately chose when I drew up this sheet twenty years ago is a great proof of what tricks you, me or Peter can play with AC power measurements. (Feel free to forward this to Peter)

Here is an example of a 100 VAC power supply running a 100 Watt resistive load (at 1 amp), in series with a 200 Watt, 700 VAR (ind.) load that is in parallel with a 300 Watt, 1500 VAR (cap.) load.

Since the power factors are opposite for the inductive load (like a fan motor) versus the capacitive load (like maybe a storage parallel plate battery in series with the inverter?), we have to subtract the reactive power wattage numbers for the loads to find the total reactive power (Qt) but the real surprise is in the table where 600 Watts of real power and 1000 Watts of apparent power (St in lower right corner) have been delivered!

To the unsuspecting investor with an unquestioning mind, it easily looks like I can "prove" to you that the input power is only 100 Watts with a small handheld meter that only measures real power. Then, I move to each load to amaze the audience with the numbers of watts output, all measured with the same small handheld meter that only measures real power. By the way, those 200 Watt and 300 Watt output measurements are real, very real!

Christy, Steve: you should probably publish this in your magazines as a "Letter to the Editor" as well.

Only the truth satisfies,

Tom

Zero Amps Rebuttal

On April 25, 2009, Charlotte Wilson wrote:

Rebuttal of the April 24 posting critique of Pete Sumaruck’s March 30 Video - written by Pete Sumaruck’s spokesperson, Charlotte Wilson

This PESWiki critique came in three (3) parts let’s address them.

#1 is a copy of a letter by Tom Valone, addressed to Todd (U.S. Army Major Hathaway).

Interestingly enough, today, April 24, 2009, Todd Hathaway gave Pete a check for $2000.00 as a deposit for the purchase of one of Pete’s power production units. Major Hathaway has worked with proponents of new energy for some years now - he “has seen it all.” He listens, observes the various inventions -gets up close and into the works, even volunteered for a while with Steve Greer and his Orion Project.

What did Todd buy for his own personal use? He chose Pete’s technology. Pete even tried not to sell to him, didn’t want to take his money, said he decided not to open up for sales until later on…but Todd was insistent and confident in Pete’s technology.

But let’s return to section #1 of this PESwiki posting. Both Pete and I agree Mr. Valone rambles through his content, but the reader can easily jump to the underlined words in the first long paragraph: “no batteries should ever be needed.” Mr. Sumaruck heartily agrees…but that was what the AERO/Orion people requested - a power production unit that would be exceedingly portable (could be carried in Steve Greer’s private plane), and would power a household appliance…for free (no cost reflected on a utility power meter). And so it is.

When one of the principles of AERO/Orion, Jan Bravo, visited Pete in his Texas warehouse/workshop, she saw his 12kW and his 65kW size units, loved them, but was sure the 12kW would be too large, so she agreed to a smaller power system. Pete hates batteries, does not want to use them. In the past, he has used 5 various forms of ignition in previous prototypes. In November 2008, he used a minute amount of gasoline for ignition to instantly start 5 motors, but it was Bill, Norm, Jan, Steve, Ted (all from AERO/Orion) who insisted on a battery for the next prototype. Sterling was there, as was Jim Dunn.

The real problem is that Pete steadfastly refuses to make public how he achieves his power increase - that is why he has it and others don’t.

Why does Pete use two batteries (and not just one) in the demonstration? Because there is a small battery isolator behind the two batteries - one runs while the other charges, then alternates to the other. There is only one battery in use at a given time. That battery counts as only one of the six loads being powered: the inverter the charger, the isolator, the drop light, the fan and the one battery. All this continues working as a closed loop system.

Related to Mr. Valone’s handwritten formula diagrams, Pete was not at his computer to read the PESWiki posting, so I described it to him over the phone. When we got to Mr. Valone’s diagrams, Pete stopped me short, “Why write it when you can build it. Has Tom Valone built this? Has he built anything new on his own?”…and then, “Come to Waco, watch this work for yourself. Then ask your questions to me in person. Or ask me on the phone, that’s fair.” {Reply by Congress:Founder:Sterling D. Allan: Pete has no idea all the major contributions Directory:Thomas Valone has made to the field, both theoretical and experimental and in the building of prototypes. Tom is one of the best friends that the free energy field has, and he has built devices that he thinks have merit to pursue.}

But what you read in this critique is not constructive - it’s grandstanding - it’s Tom Valone saying he’s an academic, but what is he contributing to the advancement, rather than stagnation of science? There are different types of people in the world - those who teach and those who create and develop. Pete builds he doesn’t tear down. And he welcomes any type of valid competition. {Sterling's reply: Tom Valone is not grandstanding, he's talking from experience of having checked out dozens of these types of claims and knowing what he is talking about in terms of instrument errors or measurmenet calculation errors that are made to lead one to make unfounded conclusions. If you don't think his analysis fits here, then offer the data and math to support it.}

In the following, Pete addresses various comments, including those in Mr. Dunn’s belated Dec. 10 letter. “In the video of the demo in my 64 Dodge pickup, the amp reading in parallel was done with a milliamp tester, and if anyone knew s#$% about electricity they would have known that, because that’s all the power that it took to run all 5 motors at the same time. There were 2- 7.5hp 3 phase motors and 3- 2hp 3phase motors running on 230 v.a.c output at 17amps with 0.19 milliamps input. These motors weighed more than a 1000 pounds, anyone who can’t understand this simple process knows nothing about electricity or they are an idiot or worse…(maybe) an EE (electrical engineer).” Quote from http://www.worldviewopinion.com/blog/_archives/2009/4/2/4141407.html

{Sterling's comment to the above paragraph: According to those I've consulted and according to my own interaction with Pete, I would say that he is the one who'se knowledge of electrical engineering is ameteurish.}

An agent of the NSA never retires - Pete considers Jim Dunn to be just another, "government hack, attempting to discredit me and my invention. The feds have been doing this for years. They’ve given up trying to kill me (6 attempts on his life). Now those POS (gov. acronym) just keep on setting up obstacles and delays, making insults, but no valid questions to my face." {Sterling's comment: Ad hominum attacks are not scientific. There are many with affinity for finding legitimate free energy technologies who have problems with Pete's claims.} ...

Let’s look at Part 3 of 3... another letter to the ubiquitous “Todd.” Pete reiterates, “learn how to use and read a milliamp meter test one wire at a time.”

Then says, “Running the fan motor, shows inductive load and the bulb to shows resistive, but I don’t understand what Tom is talking about - 600 W and 1000 W on the ‘table’…I never said anything about that… and when he says ‘the real surprise,’ what does he mean? There’s 711 watts of power on the table. He’s just trying to confuse the issues.”

Tom wins the Obfuscation Oration prize in the 5th paragraph, where he refers to a 100watts input - Pete wonders if Tom has jumped to the demonstration in the November video? Tom talks about 200 and 300 watts outputs but that can’t refer to Pete’s March 30 video - Pete never speaks of those numbers, where did Tom get those numbers? What we all seek is clarity, but Tom seems to muddy the waters. {Sterling's reply: Pete is not seeking clarity. He does not agree to simple, clear tests to prove his claim.}

To recap, Pete says anyone knowledgeable in working with electrical power would know there was an isolator attached to the 2 batteries. Secondly, learn to read and use a milliamp meter. Thirdly, if anyone has sincere and honest questions, just ask Pete. {Sterling's reply: You'll be treated fine as long as you follow and agree with his line of thinking.}

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