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From: Congress:Advisor:Kenneth M. Rauen

To: Sterling D. Allan

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:52 PM

Subject: Re: ... Telesis Site ...

Hi Sterling and Friends,

I examined the website material. The hardware that is ready for completion looks nice, like the inventor knows what he is doing, but that is just an impression and not necessarily the reality.

The description of the device, conceptually and mechanically, is sorely lacking in substance. His numbers do not look good, even if the device works, which is not even established firmly in concept. It is all too nebulous to me.

One inch-pound of work is 0.011 Joules. A 4x value per revolution is 0.044 J. At 1000 rpm, the maximum operation expected (and I agree), this is merely 0.73 Watts.

The superconducting shields (not fully explained) need to be immersed in liquid nitrogen or surrounded with that cold of an environment. This size device inside a dewar flask chilled with liquid nitrogen will consume at least 5 Watts of heat to boil the LN2 to keep it refrigerated to that temperature I speak from direct experience dealing with LN2 and dewars at NERL. The power consumed to generate the LN2 is even greater than that, so even if the device works (a can of worms to prove, with the LN2 input), its output is less than what it takes to keep it cold! I do not see a winner here.


[Science Advisor, PES]


From: Sterling D. Allan

To: Telesis egroup

Cc: Ken Rauen

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:23 PM

Subject: Liquid Nitrogen Maintenance Will Gobble Power


Don't be discouraged. I'm wondering if Mark Goldes' ultra conductors (room temperature superconductors) might have an application here. Once we open source, I can approach him.


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