OS:Joe Cell:FAQ

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Q. How exactly can a Joe Cell run an engine?

The Joe cell is is an electrolytic capacitor. It builds up a charge within, and ionises the vapour. This then travels along a tube either within the engine manifold or into the engine direct thru any surface, bolt, etc. The Pistons are moving and creating static charge field of air and moving components. This transfers within the engine ionization saturation and spark discharge, which are the classical plasma physics associated with this humble Joe Cell. How would you like to have your cars with O2 pollution increased and your hair slicked back from the G force within the vehicle. We have been there and done that. -- Peter Stevens (Apr 18, 2006)

Indeed, as countless experimenters have learned after rigorous tests in the field with this amazing joe cell divise, record numbers of ionizations occur per second. The only other experiential paradigm the exercises such properties derives specifically from lactic acid and micro black holes. Fuel-less means Fuel Less, or in other words, No Fuel. That's right, you're conclusions couldn't lie. Any old Joe knows what no fuel means. Do you?

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Q. What

No fuel is consumed in the Joe Cell process we are pursuing here. A 1.5-v battery is affixed to maintain the charge across plates, but it is not depleted but only serves as a reference for the cell. Other Joe cell applications function somewhat like an electrolizer, but that isn't really what is happening in this application. No water is consumed. In fact, no matter/energy transference occurs at all at any level of the system. And It is pure newtonian physics like you learned in high school! Totally frictionless!

Q. What kind of water do you use?

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Just use any water that you find handy. I precharge mine but have used spring water dam ater [??] bore water and find that ground water works just fine. -- Peter Stevens

The water that comes out the tap at home should be fine. -- John Carter (Apr 21, 2006)

Alex Schiffer's recomendations on water (electrolyte, or not) - use virgin water from a spring, LESS THAN 7.0 ph water but not lower than 5.0 -- identix8 (Apr 22, 2006)

Juvenile water is ravenous and draws in everything it can, says Viktor Shauberger -- long_boat_roz (Apr 22, 2006)

My plan is to assemble a joe cell and use the 'mysteriously energetic miracle 2 neutralizing gel to alter the spring water. -- disoronno (Apr 23, 2006)

Q. How do you charge the water?

"Water chargeing, In my opinion is the most critical part of succeeding with a Joe Cell" -- Bernie Heere (Apr 21, 2006)

"You don't want to boil the water. 5 minute charge cycles, than let the cell cool down for 4 hours or so." -- Bernie Heere (Apr 22, 2006)

Peter charges the water in a SS beer barrel and then allows the brown scum to settle, decants the clear water from a connection about half way up, then throws out what's left and then does another batch. It is this charged water that is put into the cell. Bill Williams charged the water in the cell but used water from a local spring. -- John Carter (Apr 21, 2006)

See Q/A item about stage 1, 2, 3.

Q. How long do you charge the water?

You have to only charge for three to ten minutes then take the positive lead off and allow vacuumn to do her thing. -- Peter

Q. Do you use electrolyte?

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Variations on the issue -- John Carter (Apr 21, 2006)

Q. What about water freezing in cold?

Will the Joe cell work in cold climates?

{If you know the answer, feel free to post it here}

Q. Why Stainless Steel?

"Stainless steel will absorb the energy field and aluminium reflects or chanels it." -- Rob [k1ngrs] (Apr 21, 2006)

Q. What size of tubes do you use?

I have found using the 7"Tube lengths of 2"Cathode 2.5, 3, 3.5 works well and 10 to 12"length x 4" Vessell Container works. I find all Joe Cells are working but not enough energy seems to come away in the smaller cells. -- Peter

Q. How many tubes do you use?

Question: three different models - In the movie, Joe Cell 3 Stages, it shows the operational cell having 6 cylinders. From the site, Joe Cell Downunder by Andy, it shows the Joes Cell having 5 cylinders and from the .pdf file of JOe Cell plans that turned up on here a few days ago it shows a cell having 4 cylinders.

Answer1 : Why don't you try making one with seven Plates or Nine. Originally we started with two. The effects of nuetral tubes became visible thru experimentation, which is where the art of the Science is. So have a go and build a couple. You'll find they all work. -- Peter

Answer2 : 5 is better than 4 and 6 is probably better than 5 but not necessary for building a successful cell. -- Hamish Robertson

Answer3 : If you have a 4" vessel. Then I would go with sizes 3.5,3,2.5. -- Nick [

Q. How can I tell between a

Please note the distinction between a living and a dead cell. This is very

important. -- Bill Lang (Apr 19, 2006)

(Need this explained here briefly.)

Q. What is

Three stage gas identification is a term constructed by Alex Schiffer as a way of identifing what bubbles you are getting in the cell. Bubbles give the water potenial. As such, only the frequencies that are within them are required. Also these bubbles remain for days, even getting stronger, absorbing energy. We would leave them sitting on our work bench then Joe would light them. Wow thunder. -- Peter Stevens (Apr 19, 2006) <pesn type= ["></pesn>

stage 3 water can burn

Nothing consumed in the ideal - Peter Stevens' reminder. (Apr 20, 2006) [ Q A

Now Peter is on the scene and he seems confident he can get those dormant Stage 3 cells to work and that should start to happen soon people re-vitalise their dormant cells. -- John Carter (Apr. 23, 2006)

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Q. Must there be bubbles in the water?

Joe says we don't need the Bubbles. -- Peter

(This is the premise Bill was going on.)

Others describe bubbles.

Q. How will you know if the cell is charged?

Possibly you'll know the cell is charged when hairs on the back of your kneck tell you. Try as you put the back of your hand near the Cell and see if the hair lifts.

Bill could you check that on your Cell and others just to confirm but a voltage readout shows anywhere from at rest pulsing 132-300milli Volts dc-13.5 V DC with Power on

but generally you'll be earthed out to the motor and chassis as your working around the Cell and wont notice it as your grounded not quiet the same as a TV screen discharge just energy from the cathode.

A meter will discharge the cell. -- Peter

Q. What happens if the polarity to the cell is reversed?

"When I reverse mine I get hydrogen, when its connected the right way I get implosive mystery gas." -- Nick (Apr 20, 2006) [

Q. Does it put stress on conrod and crankshaft?

You can forget about the breaking end caps. It doesn't happen. -- Adrian Sykes (Apr 23, 2006)

Question about 70 degrees BTDC -- clowngene asks about the ramification of an implosion engine and valve leakage. (Apr 23, 2006)

Q. What about Diesel Engines?

The diesel Motor won't require any modifications. But remember not to run with the positive power into the cell as it will lock the engine. This Lock is a Static lock with the Frequency, Growth into the Cylinder and Pistons. They will release with sparking the engine with a Zap or short 12 VDC onto the crank will release it but may have already damaged engine components. Trying to start mat damage such as starter Housings etc so turn Positive power off. -- Peter Stevens (Apr 18, 2006)

Q. Will it work on modern engines with all their gizmos?

Q. OK ((??))

Q. What about air-cooled engines?

"According to Alex Schiffer (I think that's where I saw it) in Experimenters Guide to the Joe Cell, you must have a water cooled engine for the jc. to work." -- David Ojeda (Apr 19, 2006)

Q. What about smaller engines?

What about small engines: Lawn mower engines, Small generators, motorcycles?

OK ((??))

Q. What about 2 cycle engines?

OK ((??))

Q. What about a Wankel motor?

Brad Handrop comments (Apr 23, 2006)

Q. Why not run portable generators, connect them to the grid, and make money?

(Most states allow home users to sell surplus electricity back at the going rate.)