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Toroidal Power Unit by Steven Mark
Technology owned by a company called "U.E.C" based outside the United States. (U.E.C. stands for? guess: United Energy Corp?)
Toroidal coil based solid state design appears to put out tremendous energy for its size.
Very convincing videos produced. At least one professional entity says that there is nothing in the videos that couldn't be faked, though others would challenge that assertion.
One of the videos shows a small (6" diam x 2" high x 1" thick toroid) solid-state prototype powering a 100W bulb directly, and through an inverter: a 3-amp drill, a television, a vacuum. Larger unit that puts out 7 amps; is said to be able to power an electric vehicle.
The power output is said to rise to meet the load.
The technology supposedly harnesses the power of the electromagnetic field of the Earth, via an unconventional toroidal wire configuration, with no moving parts. The device's operation is accompanied by a slight gyroscopic mechanical force, and slight noise.
- Technology also known as . . .
- The Toroid Generator.
- The T.P.U . (Torroidal Power Unit)
- "Ring of Power"
- Questions
- Where is it now? Has it been independently replicated? Is it being moved toward production somewhere?
- Answer
- The technology is owned in whole by UEC, a corporation based outside the United States. Possibly in the Phillipines. A replication project is underway at overunity.com in the "'The Master of Magnetics' Steven Mark" thread. Started by Linday Mannix, who is the only person in contact with the reclusive Mr. Mark. A better question might be: Where is the UEC, who are they, what does UEC stand for, how do we get in contact with them about the device. -- User:Gn0stik
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About
Official Website
- Is there one? We don't know of one. Is there an old site that is still available through http://archive.org ?
- Answer
- No -- User:Gn0stik
Overview
- Steven Mark's Torroid Unit, 2007, v1.0 (backup) - A 41-page PDF compilation of postings by and correspondence with Steven Mark, assembled by Mannix, Reading it first might might help avoid a lot of redundant communication.
Present Disposition?
The videos below are nearly a decade old.
The inventor seems to have gone out of circulation due to personal shortcomings.
We (PES Network, Inc and New Energy Congress) would like to know if there is anyone who is authorized to continue where Mr. Mark left off. It is a travesty that this technology is dormant.
- Answer
- It's NOT dormant! Mr. Mark via Lindsay Mannix has helped to guide a group of willing experimenters in learning how his technology works. He has not been in contact for some time however. Mr. Mark became reclusive due to being slandered quite severely back in the 90's, and sold the rights to his device and withdrew from public demonstrations etc. -- User:Gn0stik
Videos
U.E.C. History of the T.P.U. (Toroid Power Unit) -- 1997
Though these five videos were posted to Google Video in 2006, they all appear to have been produced in a similar time period. Some show a date: 1997. Video two, listed first, is the best and longest presentation of the technology.
- Steven Mark solid state -- video two (38:28 mins) - Well narrated by Steve Mark, shows three devices. Small (6" diam x 2" high x 1" thick toroid) solid-state prototype is shown powering a 100W bulb directly, and through an inverter: a 3-amp drill, a television, a vacuum. Harnesses power of electromagnetic field. Larger unit puts out 7 amps; could power an electric vehicle. (not dated; posted at Google Video on July 2, 2006)
- Steven Marks solid state -- video three (4:10 mins) - Shows one of the first devices built. 61 volts, 25 W. Vibrates slightly in hands, generates a little heat. Doesn't produce up-side-down. (not dated; posted at Google Video on July 2, 2006)
- Steven Marks solid state -- video one (57:5 mins)- Not well presented in terms of dialogue. Video overlaps the other four videos, with some new content. Shows cutting through the larger toroid to show its "insides". (not dated; posted at Google Video on July 2, 2006)
- Steven Marks solid state -- video four (5:46 mins) - Well-narrated by Steve Mark. Shows small unit. Actived when two small magnets are put in place. 91 Volts, lights two 60W bulbs. Inhernet vibration 6000 Hz. This video doesn't do as good of job of showing device isolated from any possible induction, as earlier videos do. (not dated; posted at Google Video on July 2, 2006)
- Note: The above videos purposely avoid any face shots of Steve. You can see his profile in this video at time stamp 2:55.
- Steven Marks solid state -- video five (9:46 mins) - Presentation made to a small group of men in suits. Not well narrated. Same set up as the last part of video 2, different location. Larger unit: 875 Volts. Cautions against wearing a ring on finger when holding device, to avoid serious burn. (Video dated March 13, 1997; posted at Google Video on July 2, 2006)
- Same video as mentioned below (ZPEnergy).
- 1997 Demo Video Shows Solid State Energy Coils - 10-minute video shows demonstration of two toroid coils. 183 Volts DC and 875 Volts DC; shown powering various appliances, light bulbs through inverter. Also exhibits anti-moving gyro effect. (ZPEnergy; Oct. 19, 2004)
Patents
awarded, planning on filing 100 more. [1]
Related Patent Application
None: Previously posted here were patents related to the molina-martinez device(US20020125774), which has absolutely NOTHING to do with SM's TPU. Just because it's solid state, and toroidal in shape means nothing. -- User:Gn0stik
About Steve Mark
Resides in California.
2004 statement: "Has a police record for lewd behavior (documents on file). Is a near impossible inventor to work with."
Challenge: If documents are on file, where are they? Doing a title search via the State of California's records show several results for home/property owners with the name Steven Mark. He could be any one of them. Which one was arrested for lewd behavior? There are also several different people with the name Steven Marks (which is not his name), chances are this is the name that was used for the search, since this is name is commonly mistaken for his real name, which is Steven Mark, no "s" at the end. -- User:Gn0stik
Dialogue
Bulletin Boards
- The Master of Magnetics "Steven Mark" - A history of The T.P.U . (Torroidal Power Unit) By Lindsay Mannix 2006 (Overunity.org; January 30, 2006 [has accumulated 423 pages of responses and 49581 reads and counting as of Oct. 12, 2006])
- "The thread is edited heavily as I know of a few posts removed." -- Mark Dansie, NEC (Oct. 13, 2006)
- Mark/Solid State Electric Generator - (Electro Tech; Sep 2005)
Email Forum
- Steve Marks' Torroidal Power Unit forum - To discuss the decade-old technogy which is a solid-state toroid coil arrangement that allegedly harnesses the electromagnetic field of the earth. To either identify the source of fraud, if it is a deception (not likely); or help advance the technology to market, finding out where it is held up, and helping it through its obstacles. (Created Oct. 13, 2006)
Professional Input
Take it With a Grain of Salt
On Oct. 13, 2006, Mark Goldes, CEO of Magnetic Power, Inc, said:
I would take this with a very great grain of salt. Our team has looked carefully at this technology claim. We can't see anything in the videos that can't be faked (via batteries or wireless transmission of power). We also are privy to a person from Sweden who lost $80,000 to an individual (now deceased) in Perth, Australia, who said he had the authority to represent the technology. Furthermore, there has to be something seriously wrong if all these years later -- nearly a decade -- there still is nothing in the marketplace. There has not been any further news of prototyping and testing.
Rebuttal to Goldes' statement
It's explained quite clearly in the first few pages of the overunity.com thread that the person in question who conned people out of their money told people he represented the technology, which is untrue. His name was Brian Collins, and did Mr. Mark a great disservice, as he is the root of all of the slander that was directed at Steven. Brian Collins was also quite insane, and called himself "Moses", requested that his friends call him that, and claimed that the world was going to follow him into a new promised land.
If this person from Sweden were to come forward, and incriminate Mr. Mark somehow directly that would be a different story, but this "warning" can be dismissed out of hand.
To the point raised that there must be something "seriously wrong" because no device is at market. Well... Gray, Moray, Sweet, Brown, (shall I continue?).. None of them have devices on the market. I mean, it's not like there's a concerted effort to keep this kind of technology from the public, right?
A Common Problem, Isnt it?
Magnetic Power, Inc. has also had exciting technology promised for years with "still nothing in the marketplace". If someone can demonstrate that power density in batteries or wireless transmission of power that effective, they have a Billion Dollar invention just with that alone. No one but Tesla and Stubblefield have ever shown wireless transmission of power to that extent; if MPI is capable of reproducing that 'fakery' by such means, let them ante up with such technology, and profit by it openly.
NEC Input
Hidden Battery Possible
On Oct. 16, 2006, New Energy Congress member, Robert Indech wrote:
As Ed Sines [NEC] has suggested, this device would appear to be simply a DC to AC converter with a hidden battery. Powering a 75 watt lightbulb for 20 seconds at 80% conversion efficiency requires only (75/(.80)x20/3600=0.52) about 1/2 watt-hour of energy, easily obtainable from a small battery. For example, a small AA alkaline battery, yields approximately 4 watt-hours of energy (i.e. approx 1.5 volts x 2.8 amp-hour capacity). It would not be difficult to hide such a small unit in the wrapped toroid as shown in the video. If a lithium battery were used, it would be even smaller. If only 1/2 watt-hour of energy is used, similar to the demo, then the hidden electrochemical battery might only have a dimension 2 times that of a watch battery. Again, 1/2 watt-hour energy could be provided by a watch battery weighing only 2.3 grams...Reference: (http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/chem/lith/coin1.htm). Full disclosure of this remarkable invention would be required before anyone should commit a dime to its "development".
Except for one thing...
Dr. Indech overlooks one obvious fact: Even *IF* modern lithium batteries could furnish sufficient energy density to 'fake' the demonstration without being large and obvious enough for any of the observers - and the camera - to easily detect (which is dubious), today's lithium polymer battery technology DID NOT EXIST a decade ago, in 1997, when these videos were filmed. All of the great advances in battery tech that make our power tools and laptops and cellphones run so much longer than they used to, have all come out in the years since then, and were not available to Mr. Marks at the time, in order to hoax it with.
Sequestered by Govt?
On Oct. 13, 2006, New Energy Congress member, Ken Rasmussen wrote:
I first found this and mentioned it on my Energy page back in August. It has definitely fascinated me. There are 5 [#Videos |videos]] posted on Google. It is best to start with part 2 first, otherwise the close ups won't make any sense in the other clips.
I have waded through about half of the 150 + postings at the overunity chat board. Mr. Mark himself has made several responses. But at least in what I have read so far, he makes no reference to it progressing toward public use. I fear his affiliate company has allowed it to become a proprietary government item. Neither is he ever clear if he solely invented it himself or if he was contracted by the acronym company to develop it. I have found no websites promoting it.
So after a month of study, I come up with more questions than answers myself. I think in part one he takes a power saw to the coil and you see it is not a conventional iron core torroidal coil. It is air core. But that is all I know for sure. Perhaps some of the ardent Tesla fans in the group could figure out the missing links.
As far as an NEC rating, it is quite impressive, but if the company wants to let the govenment take all of it, it isn't much good to anyone else.
Siding with the skeptics, there is still the possibility that there were power line grids within a block of his demo home. And we both know ther are coils out there that can pull power from a high voltage grid maybe a half mile away. [2] [3]
- Rebuttal
- Possibly, but it's unlikely someone could pull that much from a radio antenna or the grid with the size of the device shown in the videos. -- User:Gn0stik
2004 Hartmann review
From: "Stefan Hartmann" harti@harti.co*m
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 1:15 AM
Subject: New Marks coil infos
Here are some new infos from Steve.
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Wilcken" s.wilcken@comcast.ne*t
To: "Stefan Hartmann" harti@harti.co*m
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Marks device a fake ?
Stefan,
I have reviewed some of the material I have collected on the Steven Marks "ring of power" (term coined by Jonathan Kolber). The video you posted on zpenergy is similar to the video distributed by SEAS in May of 2002. The venue is different, but the same small and large toroids were demonstrated in an identical setup with 10 light bulbs, etc. The electrical discharge arc and washboard effects were also demonstrated in the other video. The SEAS video is probably still available.
This new video clip was shot in Perth, Australia by an investment group that was weighing the possibility of buying the technology. You may already be aware of this. Marks wanted too much money for his device, so the deal fell through. The Australian investment group was permitted to thoroughly test the device. They are convinced that the device is not a fake. Marks apparently sold the technology to his attorney, Mr. Paul Stemm, who presently resides in the Philippines.
The SEAS organization also communicated with Marks back in late 2001 or early 2002. Again, Marks wanted too much money. SEAS subsequently contacted Paul Stemm, who is apparently attempting to bring the device into production readiness. Evidently, the device requires development in the sense that it only works in a certain orientation relative to the earth. This must relate to the "washboard" effect commented on in the videos. Apparently that problem has been resolved, or is in the process of being resolved.
The device apparently requires a small amount of input power from a battery. This bothers some people, for reasons that completely elude me.
Unfortunately, I don't have a clue as to how the device operates. I am hoping to receive additional information in the near future, which may shed further light on the operational characteristics.
Regards,
Steve Wilcken
Stefan Hartman Posts Video
Oct. 22, 2004
I just re-encoded the whole 700 Mbytes movie with DR.DIVX to about 185 Mbytes with no visible loss.
I uploaded it splitted into 8 ZIP files ( 8 AVI files with DIVX.com codec) to: http://ntint.ntinternals.net/
There is also the original 95 MBytes MPEG movie from the other presentation. But try first to get the ZIP files !
If you want to play the ZIPed AVI files you need to have the www.divx.com codec installed on your machine.
As I have encoded the audio with VBR MP3 settings, you need to disable the internal MPEG Audio Codec in Media Player Classic, if you use this player before loading the AVI file.
It plays fine in Microsoft Windows Mediaplayer 9 also ! ( You don´t need to toggle there something...)
Have a look at the whole movie first before commenting on it !
I got the movie already in MPEG-4 V1 352x288 and 12 Khz PCM format from a guy from Czecheslowaki ( *.cz) and he got a 5th or more generation videotape copy from Poland 1 1/2 years ago, so that is the bad tape quality already...
Please post some comments, if you have watched it and tell me, if you think the big output is faked or real !
Thanks !
Regards, Stefan.
Related Links
- THE STEVEN MARK DEVICE - KNOWN DATA FROM AU (EMAIL) - Over Unity, solid state electrical output for lighting, no apparent input, appears toroidal in geometry or similar to a Hendershot Generator, will not demonstrate device running motors. Video tape shows three devices of different sizes. (INE; 28 Apr 2002)
- Rebuttal: Above link is the most ridiculous example of slander about Mr. Mark. He has never lived at the addresses mentioned, this has been proven, in fact the one in California doesn't exist. The writer of those messages has been asked to verify his accusations and does not return emails, or answer any challenges to his information, and does not bear burden of proof, by providing documentation, or source materials for his slanderous remarks. -- User:Gn0stik
- Electro-gravity proof!!?? - Info about business dealings in Australia. (Keelynet; 21 Jul 1999)
Contact
Lindsay Mannix, who participates on the Overunity.org discussion forum on this subject claims to be in direct contact with Mr. Mark. You might contact Steven Mark through him.
See also
- Directory of Solid State Generation Systems at FreeEnergyNews.com
- Directory:Solid State Generators
- PowerPedia:Solid State Generator
- Directory:Electromagnetic
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