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Can we eliminate the perpetual motion machines unless someone is actually producing power from it!!
“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.? Carl Sagan

The Thor Power article needs a caution. To boost his permanent magnet motors the Thor guy claims AC motors are only 47 percent efficient. Good AC dynamos, such as those units used for pumped hydro, are about 90 percent efficient. Anthony717 15:56, 24 Jul 2008 (EDT)

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