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    Keppean Scalar Motor Demonstration Under Way - The Keppe Motor allegedly requires a quarter as much electricity to generate power as a normal motor -- by capturing scalar energy from the "vacuum" of space. It is named for Brazilian scientist, Norberto Keppe, Ph.D., whose book The New Physics Derived from A Disinverted Metaphysics proposes a spiritual-based direction for our planet's technological philosophy. (PESWIki; Sept. 23, 2008)

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Sloppy Science

On September 24, 2008 1:55 PM Mountain, New Energy Congress member, Earl wrote:

OPINION:
After watching the 3 videos, I was left with the impression that the motor is definitely NOT OU. I was disturbed by the non rigorous attitude of the developers: input power was measured, but output power was measured by saying "look how fast the fan turns". No Prony Brake.

Until the people involved understand power in/out measurements, this "miracle motor" remains uninteresting.

I did not get excited; this motor leaves me cold.

While it is nice to see people interested in and trying to change things, my gut feeling was negative: a bit too much new age, spiritual, andreligious aspects mixed in, along with sloppy science, for me.

Dr Keppe in the film had the title psychoanalyst, which doesn't fit so well to an inventor of 'the most wonderful electronic machine in the last 100 years.' I would not call the Brazilian technicians scientists, if they can not even perform a Prony brake test.

They also mention the coil is cold, but no wonder when a fan is blowing [across] it.

Lots of Copper for a Little Power

On September 24, 2008 1:55 PM Mountain, New Energy Congress member, Robert L Pritchett wrote:

The did tend to spend all their time showing the fan and no drawings or "patent pending" info regarding the coil and using both the right and left hand methods of electricity.

With the price of copper what it is today, having a huge coil to do "just a little work" seems a bit much, doesn't it? And don't forget to put the "spin" on startup each time - by hand. Like the first prop-jobs.

I was torn on making "Dr. Keppeano" the "inventor", when he had 2 Brazilian Scientists doing a the work. If you guys and gals know any differently, please let us know so we can update accordingly.

Similar to Bedini Motor; Batteries Tricky

On September 22, 2008 9:35 PM Mountain, New Energy Congress member, Sterling D. Allan wrote:

This appears very similar to the Bedini monopole SG motor. I have to wonder how rigorously they have measured the battery usage. I know when I was running the Bedini SG there were some short-term effects that looked very exciting but which did not hold up in the long term; and were largely a function of battery characteristics. (Index of SDA Experiments)

Similar to Newman Motor

On September 23, 2008 1:33 AM Mountain, New Energy Congress member, Mark Snoswell wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong – but isn’t this just a Newman Motor configuration?


Another in Long List of Such Claims

On September 23, 2008 11:48 AM Mountain, New Energy Congress member, Gary Vespermann wrote:

I suppose I could add the Keppe motor to my list of inventors of claimed (but not necessarily proven) over-unity rotating machines. My list now includes Keppe, Harold Aspden, Troy Reed, James Watson, Bergman, Jerry Labine, Tewari, Stefan Marinov, Teruo Kawai, Earl Davenport, James Heise, Mike Windell, Leonhardt Schroedter, Joseph Newman, Wayne Gatt, Bill Muller, Ron Brandt, Brian Borrowdale, Bruce DePalma, Howard Rory Johnson, Howard R. Johnson, Lester J. Hendershot, John Bedini, Hitachi Magnetics Corporation, Yasunori Takahashi, Johan Grander, and two murdered inventors of a Model T Ford generator with added magnets.

Maybe, just maybe, at least one of these actually produces net power gain?


Could it be applied to a generator?

On September 24, 2008 6:03 AM Mountain, Stephen Lawrence <singingstephen {at} ntlworld.com> of Committee for Future Energies, Cambridge, England, wrote:


Just saw your keppean motor posting - thanks!

I wonder if he can develop a Keppean generator? Or for that matter a generator based on any of the new technologies?

Since there are far less generators than there are motors, anything which would replace generators would have a greater effect on overall energy supplies than replacing electric motors - and it would also help all non-motor applications too.

Still, generators are often quite big machines! difficult to scale these things up.

I wonder too whether the group can link up with something the refrigeration industry (as Mr Kohei Minato did in Japan to reduce operating cost of fridges.)

Something non-moving is easier to maintain than the putative electric car, and by building up a base of engineers familiar with the new technology(-ies), a leap into cars could follow. Jumping straight in seems unwise!

Overunity?

On September 21 2009 Maryyugo wrote:

If this is overunity, why don't they simply connect the output to a generator and power the motor from that? Presto-- perpetual motion. Yah shoore. This travesty is just another example of people who are ignoranty about basic electricity and electronics and don't have a clue on what equipment and methods are needed to measure the power in currents with complex waveforms, especially those with spikes.

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