Talk:Academy:Video of Jimmy Sabori's Papp Engine Variants

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Please can some load the file down so we can down load it and take time to look at it. all the best Roger

Tim Ventura has never had anything to do with this video. Speaking of coat tail riders. The reports of Jimmy trying to drum up investment from this are false!! This was released against Jimmy's wishes. I made the decision to release it, after aquiring John's permission. The people in the video felt they would be in extreem danger if this got out. We thought the public has a right to know of this. It is only a private video for John from Jimmy. Ken is financially biased, he bought a bunch of the original equipment and is subsequently spin doctoring everything to protect his investment. We are here to discuss and report the science. Ken , get a website like Mel Whitfield if you want to spew propaganda for your own gain. Tim Ventura will include you in his site, its based on such strategy. Go ahead and change it back and spin doctor things for your self if you like. I will create a public article denouncing you on our website if you attempt to alter any more Facts. Nice try all, we have been reverse engineering things ourselves and we know just what makes it tick. John's website will release all r&d on this technology as it suits our time table. It will be unpatented, free device with plans and schematics.

Another thing, Jimmy never claimed any ownership of the design idea or credit. He was a duped investor who was left holding Papps bag and he did the best he could to deliver us from the oil companies. All this negative energy is a real discredit to the article. I got all of those emails forwarded as they came in as well. Typical parasitic Tim Ventura style. Im getting really sick of your backbiting nature. You belong with shell oil, not the free energy community. Free means for all. The idea is to end some of the worlds problems, not corner another market and push real science back into the dark ages. Anything of your own invented yet Tim and friends? Rexx Webb has some new videos for you to host of him throwing a pail in the air and calling it antigravity.

Ken's quote: "Unfortunately, I cannot say how the Papp engine likely runs. That information is ENTIRELY proprietary right now. All other speculation on how the engine runs is garbage, and just wild speculation.

I will give you one hint, from nature: the Compton gamma-ray satellite observatory found gamma-ray bursts coming from intense thunderstorms on Earth! Electric fields appear to be capable of producing nuclear reactions, as demonstrated by nature. As far as I know, nuclear reactions are the only sources of gamma-rays. I am not implying the Papp engine creates gamma-rays. I am saying it MIGHT be nuclear-powered from electric arcs."

Well I can say exactly how it works because its not proprietary to me. The reaction splits an atom of helium in a type of cold fusion reaction. The argon is for cooling, the neon is a medium that converts the explosive energy into electrical energy that can be bled off by the field coils outside of the chamber. The krypton is responsible for generating the hot plasma that reacts with the other gasses to react upon the helium atom. When timed properly, one helium atom is split for each cycle. There is also a ceramic that assists in high frequency energy conversion, much like barium titanate, or PZT transducers used in sonar applications.

Since the system reacts in a vaccum, and from a 15 000 volt ignition coil, the tantalum "spark plug" creates an xray plasma discharge that begins the whole reaction. It created 1000 volts at 600 amps in addition to the expansion and contraction of gasses. The engine has only one moving part, the piston. However if you remove the piston and the engine from the equasion, you still have a vaccum chamber that splits atoms of helium and creates 1000 volts at 600 ampers with no moving parts.. It would require 120 volts at 100 amps to power a 5 seater electric car. All you need to increase the power from the unit is to speed up the ignition coil pulses for nearly unlimited power from a small vaccumed container. If for some strange reason the piston had anything to do with the reaction, it could be mounted on a spring inside the sealed unit and bounce back and forth for each cycle. The engine its self is a scam, it was never required in the first place. This explains why Papp never allowed anyone to see how it worked. The motor its self was misdirection from the atomic electromagnetic nature of the reaction.

Science is not proprietary. If the engine indeed was required and responsible for converting the kinetic energy they claim it does, then that device would be proprietary. However, the science behind it is what they dont want people to know, and this was Papps mistake as well. It was Gene Mallove's position that Papp stole the formula from a nuclear energy plant in Hungary where he was a janitor until he all of a sudden became an inventor. Papp milked the reaction for all the cash he could scam without revealing the science behind it. He conned Jimmy and got the horns. The wild fire of emails posted here were the result of Kens unhappiness about the release of the video. He immediatly began doing what he thought was damage control. Refuting anything he could and anyone involved he could slander. Its all fake nothing to see here, but I have it now, and its real but I cant tell you. I dont have to discredit someone with no credibility. One scam, one lie throws the entire facade out the window.