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OS: QMoGen Open Source Project
Compiled by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
December 5, 2013
- Present Status
- As of December 12, 2013... We have been presented with a set of plans that now need to be validated. See OS: Nigerian QMoGen Plans.
- Derive, validate, optimize, and propagate a set of plans for a working QMoGen (self-looped motor-generator system with energy left over) that can be replicated worldwide, creating clean energy systems, jobs, hope, social stability. In exchange, we ask that anyone who enters a commercial venture (e.g. selling plans, translations, kits, components, completed systems, installations, maintenance, franchises) in which they are earning money because of this system that they remit a 5% royalty to PES Network, Inc. / NEST. And we ask that any copy of this information include this stipulation as well as a link to this open source page through http://QMoGen.com We also ask that all products include the url: QMoGen.com
- Since we commenced our QMoGen index in August of 2012, we have encountered at least 37 separate QMoGen systems around the world. Most of them seem to have been arrived at independent from one another, suggesting that the "download" came from a higher source, and common intellectual base of inspiration. We see many commonalities between them. True to the "hundredth monkey" principle, we see this technology belonging to mankind, and encourage its propagation and implementation. We know of no patents that have been awarded on this approach.
- The motor is a lower power than the generator and is able to run the generator with help from the wheelwork of nature. I could be wrong, but it seems that the motor power needs to be high enough to bring the generator up to full speed with no load. It could be that as the generator nears its operational speed that the assistance from the wheelwork of nature begins to kick in, so not as much energy is required as otherwise might be expected. Once the generator is up to speed, the input to the motor can be powered from the generator, due to some kind of resonance that is set up with the wheelwork of nature, not only powering the input motor but also powering a load that is of a level that makes the cost of the apparatus worth while.
- There needs to be some distance between the motor and generator -- e.g. at least around 2 feet for a net 5 kW system.
- The flywheel seen in about half of the systems is probably not crucial, but helps maintain the speed and stability for events including 1) switching the input power to the motor from grid to self-looped mode; 2) changing the load on the load bank. If the drive motor is able to respond with more/less torque in a timely way, then perhaps the flywheel could be eliminated.
- Moving parts: rapidly turning shafts, belts.
- The electrical power being generated by these systems could be deadly if improperly handled.
- Batteries involved acid as well as possible off-gassing
- Emmett Butler posts cautions/disclaimer for QMoGen replicating (Free Energy Blog; December 20, 2013)
- Experiment at your own risk. PES / NEST is not liable for any accidents that may result.
- Bring system up to speed from zero, without a load
- Maintain a steady speed, increasing torque when load increases?
- To be bring the system from a speed of zero to full generator speed.
- During operation, it should be able to increase/decrease torque in response to changes in load, so that the generator maintains its speed.
In the range of 5-8 kW. Pulleys should be configured to spin the generator at its rated speed per the motors optimal speed.
- e.g. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200395478_200395478 - NorthStar Generator Head — 6500 Surge Watts, 6000 Rated Watts, J609B Engine Adaption. $349.99
with bearings; able to attach 2 pulley mounts on shaft: one to motor, one to generator
Belts and Pulleys
toothed between motor and flywheel; slippable (depending on tension) between flywheel and generator;
Tension Apparatus for Flywheel-Generator Belt
to be able to loosen and tighten the belt for zero sync to 100% sync
for plug-in applications on the load side
hold everything in place; on wheels
for motility; able to support the weight of the apparatus
- Is the system wirelessly harnessing grid power? (Put the system on rollers, and once it is up to speed in "self-looped mode", roll it out of vicinity of grid power, e.g. into a parking lot, or better yet, roll it into the back of a truck and drive far away from any grid power, such as into a field.)
- Can the flywheel be removed?
- What is the optimal flywheel size per cost consideration?
- Does the slippable capability need to be present between the flywheel and generator, or can the entire assembly be permanent tight-belt mounted?
- How close can the motor and generator get to each other and still function in the QMoGen manner?
- How far apart can the motor and generator be and still function in the QMoGen manner?
- What is the optimal distance between the motor and generator?
- What kinds of motors and generators can be matched and still function in the QMoGen manner? For example, could a starter motor from a car turn the alternator (without the engine in-between) to evoke this QMoGen effect?
- What is the largest disparity that can be maintained between the small size of the motor and the large size of the generator?
- Will the effect still work if the input motor is rated higher than the output generator (the input motor would be working on the lower end of its power capability)?
- What is the cheapest motor/generator combination?
Eventually: Battery Bank
Something I've not seen in the 37+ QMoGens I've been made aware of, that seems like it would make the system more stable, is a battery bank, so the input motor is powered by the inverter and doesn't need to be switched from grid to self-looped mode. And the battery bank is kept topped off by a battery charger once the system is brought up to speed. In this arrangement, the system is always autonomous and doesn't need the grid at all.
The primary reason this approach is not used is because commercially available AC motors are not designed to run off batteries but off of 3-phase grid-based power, which can be supplied by the output generator, but not by a battery bank.
Presently, there are not commercially-available inverters that can convert 12-V input into 3-phase, 120-V power -- primarily because there has not been a need. Such an inverter would take a lot of abuse electrically, and would involve heavy losses. Most typical uses involve the grid, and are not trying to make the grid obsolete. I bet there are some clever inventers out there that could come up with something that would work.
Once we have a better idea of what we're talking about for the demands on the motor, what kind of motors work and what don't (for example, could a DC motor work?), then we'll be in a better position to know what to design for in inventing an inverter that would enable a battery bank to take the place of the grid for this application.
I would think that a couple of typical 12-V car battery would be capable of bringing a 5 kW system up to speed. They are able to turn over a cold engine, after all. It's just that the engineering has not been done to run electric motors on batteries -- at least not that I know of.
In the News
- Emmett Butler to post QMoGen instructions - "In the next two weeks I will have a blog up and you can see not only how to build one but how it works. I have done this." (Free Energy Blog; December 16, 2013)
- Featured: Electromagnetic > QMoGen > Open Source >
Nigerian QMoGen Plans Posted - Looking for people willing/able to try replicating the 5 kW self-looped motor-generator system described in these open source plans out of Africa. Author says it works. (PESWiki; December 12, 2013)
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