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Page posted April 23, 2009

Chris Brown's Own Measurements Show No Change In TV Setup


On April 15, 2009, Chris W. Brown reported that he had run a television set on a KML Coil system he devised, and that the duration of the run seemed much longer than what would be possible without the KML Coils involved. The seeming excess energy was attributed aetheric energy.

Today, per request from the New Energy Congress, he completed a before/after test keeping all parameters the same except for the addition of the coils in one of the tests. There was no significant change between the two times.

Unfortunately, according to the NEC, the conclusion from this one test is that the KML Coils are not contributing anything to the system.

Nevertheless, Chris claims that others have been able to get around some losses in the system and have seen a net gain. No data has been provided yet to support that claim yet.

Contents

Data from Chris Brown

On April 23, 2009 2:56 PM Mountain, Chris wrote:


I didn't have time to fill in the run time ,but if you have time to do the math please do. Thank you in advance.

I'm looking for the values in the middle and not the total values because of the charging etc. I'm concerned with other figures that tell me something different then your normal way of measuring. I'm looking at voltage drops in TIME. I understand most people really don't care about that. It allows me to figure something out of where to fix and enhance what's going on and BOOST where i need to and find the loss.

The smart charger only charges in WAVES based on what it reads from the battery and it's self if it thinks it needs to cycle out of phase it will. It will see that the current volts charging method is not working and will try another method from the beginning and try bulding it up again in 3 Phases.

Experimental Setup

Image:ChrisBrown-KML-Coil_diagram_SDA_bf4.gif

Modification for load test change

I placed 3 in series on the top on each antena = sticking up I need to shorten it :)

(*(-Only MODIFICATION-)*)
3# Negative KML in Series on post end being insulated.
3# Positive KML in Series on post end being insulated.

Equipment in use with system
-----------------------------
Wire Used = Insulated Solid Copper core
E23919 (UL) AWG 14 TYPE THHN OR THWN 600V GASOLINE AND OIL RESISTANT II OR AMW VW-1

KML Configuration Modification = 3 in series as tap on post
all others are 6-9 in line where ever there is power
there are 2 in series negative and positive on AC line to charger.

Battery Charger =
Black and Decker Smart Charger 2/4/6 6 AMP Charge Rate
VEC 1086BBD U.S. Patent 6,822,425 8 minutes to start - 5 hours to full charge

Battery =
EXIDE Cutting Edge Standard
Type GT-H 235 CCA @ 0.o F Group Size:U-1
1-800-Start it

Inverter =
Kawasaki Heavy Duty 800 Watt DC-> AC Inverter
Number 840124 Phone->1-800-590-3723 Warranty / Service
http://www.alltradetools.com


Data: With KML Coil

************ KML COIL Begin ****************

Test Begin #

A - Full system with coils

Charged battery at = 5:10:34
Done charging at = 5:48 volts at 13.02
Let the battery sit for 1/2 hour just to make sure and it's still reading at 13.02
Battery Charge before Activation = 14.64->65->66
Battery Charger voltage = 2 AMP
Connect start voltage = 12.90 at 8:27pm

Start time = 8:28 PM
Charger kick in Time = 8:30 at 12.20-22
End Time = 10:53 PM

Batt. V – Start Batt. V – End = 11.33v @t 10:57pm Total Run Time 2:25 Hour Loads 80 WaTT TV
12.68-71 @t 8.28 pm
12.11-13 @t 8.42 pm
12.03-10 @t 8:48 pm
12.08-09 @t 8:56 pm
12.01-04 @t 9:06 pm
11.52-54 @t 10:30 pm
11.33-34 @t 10:42 pm
Fault @t 10:50 pm
TV Shut @t 10:53 pm

Test End #
************ KML COIL End *********************


Data: Without KML Coil

************ NO KML COIL Begin ****************

Test Begin #

Battery Charge before Activation = 13.12
Start time = 10:46 am
End Time = 1:17 pm
Battery Charge before Activation = 13.12
Battery Charger voltage = 2 AMP
Connect start voltage = 12.49v at 10:56pm

B - System without coils
Batt. V – Start Batt. V – End 10.72v @t 1:17 Total Run Time 2:21 Hrs. Loads 80 WaTT TV
12.45 @t---- 10:58 am
12.38 @t---- 10:59 am
12.28-29 @t--11:09 am
12.24-25 @t--11:10 am
12.23-24 @t--11:52 am
12.16 @t-----11:27 am
12.11-12 @t--11:31 am
12.04----@t--11:41 am
12.01-02-@t--11:45 am
11.98.99-@t--11:56 am
11.87-88-@t--12:07 pm
11.86----@t--12:14 pm
11.78-79-@t--12:22 pm
11.77-78-@t--12:27 pm
11.65-66-@t--12:41 pm
11.57-58-@t--12:49 pm
11.50-51-@t--12:52 pm
11.53-54-@t--12:55 pm
11.38-40-@t--12:59 pm
11.35-41-@t---1:00 pm
11.32-34-@t---1:01 pm
11.39-40-@t---1:03 pm
Fault-10.59-60 @t 1:16 pm
TV Shut Down--10.72-73 @t 1:17

Test End #
************ NO KML COIL End ****************

Conclusions

On April 23, 2009 2:37 PM Mountain, a New Energy Congress advisor wrote:

There does not appear to be much difference in the 2 runs, with and without the coils. Both produced/consumed approximately the same amount of energy, which would indicate that the coils had NO EFFECT on the operation or contributed NO additional energy to the process.

Both runs consumed about the same amount of NET power. The active load (the TV) consumed 11,600 Watt-minutes or 193 W-H. The second run, without the 4 KML coils, consumed 188 W-H; but the battery did not appear to be fully recharged for that run, with a small difference of less than 3%.

The run without the KML coils seems to have been done without the battery fully charged, as the starting voltage should have been at least 12.9 VDC (the standard voltage for a fully charged lead acid battery). Chris' data showed the battery at 13.02 for the first run, but he didn’t show the voltage that the battery was re-charged to, just the initial voltage under load of 12.45 vs. 12.68 V in the first run, which would indicate that the battery was nearly recharged, but not fully recharged. (The starting voltages should have been very similar, if fully recharged).

Sorry, but there is no evidence here of any gain whatsoever from the added coils.

Chris Still Hopeful

On April 24, 2009, Chris wrote:

It's still in testing but my other people say they have had to modify some things about that same system, and they have it solved.

I'm just trying to do it in the U.S.

If you notice on the figures you will see a heat loss and a slower voltage drop because something is sucking up energy and destroying it. This is [probably] coming from the battery charger and or the inverter. Every time the inverter or battery charger get fed this energy they just somehow throw it away. It's getting blown away by heat dissipation or some type of loss. They had to switch the inverter and the battery charger because they are inefficient.

The car battery is just there for the amp pull that these things are dragging on.

Sterling D. Allan says: How about having those who claim to have fixed or partially fixed this problem to do a good before/after test and send you the data?

rainmanp7 says: Yes i'm working on it. I will get you sustainable data as soon as possible. But electronics um takes a little time when there are complicated circuits involved, because I'm not as good at circuits and other complicated electronic circuits as other people that have schooling in this area. I will get back with these guys. But in their country they are very busy with the gas and oil thing and are getting very strange attention from people in their country that makes them very nervous. They are extremely worried about MIB, etc. and very unwanted people. For some reason this type of thing attracts very bad people when they see it works. I will get very simple data to recreate things rather then people spending lots of money recreating it in testing etc.

Sterling D. Allan says: No need to spend lost of money in testing.
Before (without KML):
1) fully charge the battery
2) plug in aparatus; t=0
3) do something nearby to be around when the system shuts off: t = end
Ditto for "with KML"
Repeat at least 2x
Taking voltage readings throughout is interesting but extra information not crucial to the bottom line. Just a start voltage and end voltage would be good.
That is very easy.

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