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Page 5 of our archives of the updates we have been posting about the October 28, 2011 test of the 1 MW E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) in Bologna, Italy, attended by around 30 observers, and carried out by scientists/engineers of the customer.

Covering November 6 - 14, 2011

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Contents

Monday, November 14, 2011

-- SilverThunder 14:30, 14 November 2011 (PST)

Sunday, November 13, 2011

Whitehouse Petition: Investigate the usefulness of the Energy Catalizer, a creation of the Italian inventor Andrea Rossi. http://wh.gov/j3P

Check out the number in this random generator of the retweet url: http://clicktotweet.com/Fe333

-- SilverThunder

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Quoting from http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm

Rossi device again demonstrated in self-sustaining mode. Large reactor demonstrated

Updated November 3, 2011

by Jed Rothwell

On October 7, 2011, Andrea Rossi performed another test of one of the reactors units he intends to use in a large 1 MW reactor. The test lasted nine hours. For nearly 4 hours there was no power input; the device was running in self-sustaining mode. (In the cold fusion literature, this mode is sometimes called "heat after death." It was first described by Fleischmann and Pons in 1993.)

A report and a short video of the test were published by Mats Lewan of NyTeknik. A detailed description is here.

Although some experts question these results, most believe that the reactor must have produced large amounts of anomalous heat, for the following reasons:

The reactor vessel holds 30 L of water. This was first brought to boil with electric power. Anomalous heat production began. Two hours later, electric power was turned off. The anomalous heat continued in self-sustaining mode for nearly four hours after that. During this self-sustaining event, roughly 60 L of tap water flowed into the vessel, replacing twice the original volume. The surface of the reactor remained hot, at 60 to 80°C, which means it was poorly insulated and it radiated a lot of heat. Three hours into the event, a video shows that one of the observers accidentally touched an exposed metal surface. The metal was hot enough to make a person jump back in pain.

At the beginning of the self-sustaining event, the anomalous power was nominally 3 kW. An hour later it rose to 8 kW. It fluctuated, rising three times in all. At the end of the event, power was increasing again. Observers wanted to look inside the reactor, so Rossi quenched the reaction by venting gas from the cell and increasing the flow of cooling water. There is no way to know how much longer the reaction might have continued if it had not been deliberately stopped.

When a poorly insulated metal vessel is filled with 30 L of boiling water, it begins to cool immediately. It can only grow cooler; it cannot remain hot or grow hotter; that would violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics. When 60 L of cold tap water is poured into the vessel, replacing the original water in stages, this also cools it down. After one hour the vessel must cool down close to room temperature. It is physically impossible for the vessel to remain at boiling temperature for 4 hours unless something inside it is producing heat. There were no chemical or electrical sources of power inside this reactor so the heat must have come from an anomalous reaction.

Unfortunately, this test was marred by problems that made it impossible to accurately determine how much energy was produced. Peak power was nominally 8 kW but the instruments were so imprecise it might have been lower or much higher, perhaps 10 kW. Problems included: poorly placed instruments; the arrangement of the outlet hose that prevented accurate independent verification of temperature and flow rates; critical parameters such as flow rates not instrumented or recorded; and an instrument that was not set to record electronically, even though it would have taken only a moment to insert an SD card and begin recording. Critical temperature and flow data that should have been electronically recorded every minute had to be manually written down by Lewan. He was only able to read the instruments every 10 or 15 minutes, which left large gaps in the data.

These problems could have been fixed at in a few hours, at minimal expense. The test could easily have been arranged to answer most skeptical objections. All of these problems were anticipated because they were present in previous tests. Experts advised Rossi how to fix them in the weeks leading up to the test, but he ignored this advice.

Experts from Motorola and elsewhere have analyzed the data. Most of them have concluded that the excess heat was real, and anomalous. Some of these reports are here: http://lenr-canr.org/RossiData/

An analysis by Horace Heffner is here.

On October 28, 2011 Rossi ran the entire array of 52 units. It apparently produced 470 kW, again with no input power. The test was described in NyTeknik.

/END OF QUOTE FROM http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm

-- SilverThunder 11:17, 13 November 2011 (PST)

Friday, November 12, 2011

-- SilverThunder 20:07, 12 November 2011 (PST)

Thursday, November 11, 2011

-- SilverThunder 16:28, 11 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 15:22, 11 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 06:44, 11 November 2011 (PST)

Thursday, November 10, 2011

-- SilverThunder 06:44, 11 November 2011 (PST)

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From the youtube channel of the Italian popular science magazine Focus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQKxqjYe3pw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebCUhVv__sE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIOOCvKnpWw

more or less these report the same press conference & query session already recounted by Sterling Allan (ie concerning the event of 28 October 2011 in Bologna).

--Francesco 05:32, 10 November 2011 (PST)

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http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/report-rossi-has-13-buyers-for-1-mw-e-cats - probably not accurate

-- SilverThunder 00:57, 10 November 2011 (PST)

Wednesday, November 9, 2011

  • Best Exotic FE: Nuclear > Cold Fusion > Rossi >
    ALERT: Could the owner of ECat.com please contact me - Andrea Rossi is wanting to enter dialogue with the owner of that domain name. Please contact Sterling at your earliest convenience. Ditto if you happen to know who runs that site. (We have the WhoIs info and have sent requests there too.) Please post this request on other E-Cat news and forum sites, as the owner of that site hasn't seen this notice here yet, apparently. Thanks. (November 9-11, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 10:48, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Radio Città del Capo / Active Network coverage of E-Cat

From: paolo.soglia {at} radiocittadelcapo.it
To: Sterling Allan
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: Mainstream News


Dear Sterling,
I saw your page with the press review on cold fusion: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Mainstream_News:Andrea_Rossi%27s_LENR_E-Cat

There are just all, lacking only us ...

Radio Città del Capo/ Popolare Network following this story from the beginning, with the on-line newspaper and radio: our network is composed of independent radio and is well known and respected in our country.

We believe that our information is particularly important as regards the Italian public.

I am attaching a small documentation of our articles and our video: you can see how the videos have been viewed by tens of thousands of people.

sincerely,
Paolo

ps
by the way, even your video with my question seems to be going very well .. ;-)


Some of our articles on the topic, listed in alphabetical order:

January 15, 2011 - the first test of the 'e-cat, event report and interview with Focardi:
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/lalba-di-una-nuova-era-69242/

January 18, 2011 - Interview with Prof. Andrea Rossi. Villa:
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/fusione-fredda-mito-o-realta-69509/

April 5, 2011 - long interview with Prof. Sergio Focardi in his study of the physics department at the University 'of Bologna (youtube video):
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/sergio-focardi-parla-il-padre-della-fusione-fredda-ni-h-75679/

21aprile 2011 - long interview with Professor Christos Stremmenos (youtube video):
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/stremmenos-la-fusione-fredda-puo-risolvere-molti-problemi-dellumanita-77206/

June 25, 2011 - minutes of the press conference held in Athens from Defkalion green technology on the project "Hiperion"
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/la-fusione-fredda-bolognese-verra-prodotta-in-serie-presentato-in-grecia-lhyperion-81930/

June 29, 2011 - Interview with the physical Loris Ferrari and Giuseppe Levi (Unibo) on the agreement signed by the company of Andrew Rossi with the University of Bologna:
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/eppur-saccende-i-fisici-delluniversita-di-bologna-studiano-le-cat-rossi-focardi-82179/

September 20, 2011 - Interview with Mats Lewan on its service on a central mega watts:
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/fusione-fredda-rossifocardi-assemblata-a-bologna-la-centrale-da-1mw-86847/

October 7, 2011 - full report on electricity from Bologna test 12 hours of e-cat (youtube video):
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/fusione-fredda-le-cat-funziona-anteprima-del-test-del-6-ottobre-88082/

October 29, 2011 - full report on electricity from Bologna central test of 1 megawatt (youtube video):
http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/28-ottobre-fusione-fredda-il-test-della-centrale-da-1-mw-89377/

YOUTUBE VIDEOS

Interview with Sergio Focardi of 5 April 2011 to 28,684 views
http://www.youtube.com/user/radiorcdc#p/u/1/TbmJPqDwQm0

Interview with Christos Stremmenos of 21 April 2011-3430
http://www.youtube.com/user/radiorcdc#p/u/1/TbmJPqDwQm0

Interview with Loris Ferrari and Giuseppe Levi of 29 June 2011 to 1672 views
http://www.youtube.com/user/radiorcdc#p/u/22/Mt3pzLpl7aU

Videos on the October 6 tests - 10,625 (+ Preview 8596) views
http://www.youtube.com/user/radiorcdc#p/u/2/2-5cFOsisAo

Videos on the October 28 Test - 1260 views
http://www.youtube.com/user/radiorcdc#p/u/17/5H4bZ0_Nm88

-- SilverThunder 05:02, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Tuesday, November 8, 2011

New article from Physorg about the E-Cat:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-rossi-e-cat-customers.html

--Francesco 16:01, 8 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 15:50, 8 November 2011 (PST)

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  • Best Exotic FE: Nuclear > Cold Fusion > Rossi > Validations > Oct. 28 >
    Rossi's E-Cat gets first customers, but questions remain - Italian scientist Andrea Rossi has spent the past year giving demonstrations of a device that he claims can generate large amounts of energy due to a little-understood nuclear process. His latest demonstration, performed on October 28th, has attracted some of the most mainstream media attention yet.... But the big question still seems to be whether Rossi’s E-Cat (energy catalyzer) device is a huge breakthrough or a huge scam. (PhysOrg; November 8, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 14:51, 8 November 2011 (PST)

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I archived November 1 -5 at News:Archive:Page 4:October 28, 2011 Test of the One Megawatt E-Cat

-- SilverThunder 04:54, 8 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 04:46, 8 November 2011 (PST)

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Monday, November 7, 2011

From: "Andrea Rossi - Leonardo Corp."
To: "Sterling Allan"
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 5:58 PM [MST]
Subject: Re: Fw: E-Cat Investment


Now I am ready. Just ask him to specify what exactly he wants to do.
A.

Citando Sterling Allan

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ***
> To: "Sterling Allan"
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 3:58 PM
> Subject: E-Cat Investment
>
>
> Hey Sterling
> I wrote you in June asking about investment opportunity into E-Cat.
> After exciting developments with 1MW E-Cat plant and first sell to
> undisclosed customer I wanted to ask again if anything change about it?
> How can we do it, if it is possible?

-- SilverThunder 17:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 14:34, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 14:14, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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Arrogance / Denial?

From: Svensson, Peter
To: Sterling Allan
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: AP being left in the dust on E-Cat


Sterling,

I have yet to see a scoop on the Oct. 28 test.

Peter


From: Sterling Allan
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:24 PM
To: Svensson, Peter
Subject: AP being left in the dust on E-Cat


Hi Peter,

Not only did AP miss the scoop, they are now being left in the dust.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Mainstream_News:Andrea_Rossi%27s_LENR_E-Cat

You need to say SOMETHING, even if its largely skeptical.

Sterling...

-- SilverThunder 10:42, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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I've uploaded the Bloomberg portion about the E-Cat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQIHNSiu24

We're working up a story on it. Pretty exciting.

-- SilverThunder 10:42, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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BloombergTV video on the E-Cat now on youtube:

(NOTE: the part concerning the E-Cat can be seen between 19:02 and 20:01)

TRANSCRIPT: “An Italian inventor has conducted what some are saying is a successful small test of the Holy Grail of energy production — cold fusion, a low-energy nuclear reaction that could theoretically produce endless, self-sustaining and incredibly cheap energy. And that’s what’s in this week’s “energyNOW!” hotZONE. The inventor, Andrea Rossi, tested what he calls his E-Cat, or Energy Catalyzer, on October 28. Rossi says his technology uses a secret catalyst that reacts with small amounts of nickel powder and hydrogen gas to create clean energy in the form of heat, no radioactive materials, nuclear waste or pollution. Rossi tested the E-Cat in Italy for an unnamed U.S. company and claims it produced in five hours about as much energy as 70 gallons of gasoline contains. There’s plenty of mystery and skepticism surrounding Rossi’s cold fusion test, but he says the E-Cat is going into mass production soon.”

--Francesco 10:16, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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Quoting from http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossis-ecat-featured-on-bloomberg-tv

Information hungry Googlers seems to be rising for every day now as well. Take a look at this graph showing Google Trends for searches conducted on “E-cat” over the past 12 months:

Image:Google-trends_mid_october2011.png

The relative searches has almost trippled during October alone. Even though no more tests are announced, the interest fueled by the well-known media platforms has certainly helped. Independent reporting or not.

-- SilverThunder 09:20, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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  • eCat: A Week In The Media Reviewed - Well, that was quite a week.After over 10 months we've now seen the eCat break through into the mainstream awareness. In the past week alone, we've seen the eCat go from relative obscurity to being covered in some of the larger and well-known mainstrea... (Free Energy Truth; 7 November 2011)
  • Media Finally Paying Attention to Rossi - The media are finally beginning to pay attention to Andrea Rossi and the e-cat. The Mail one of the largest and most important newspapers in the UK and the world published an article about Rossi and his cold fusion device on Saturday November 4 one week... (Energycatalyzer3; November 7, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 08:55, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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  • Andrea Rossi’s Ecat featured on Bloomberg TV! - This weekend Bloomberg TV aired a clip from Ecat.com‘s video footage taken from the 6th of October event. The TV-show energyNOW! have a special feature each week they call “The Hot Zone” which brings up new energy developments around the world. Andrea Rossi’s Ecat was apparently interesting enough to air on US national TV during last week’s program “Nuclear waste and the race for resources” for almost one minute. (ECatReport; November 7, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 08:41, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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-- SilverThunder 08:33, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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  • E-Cat: between 2 years in all homes. Interview with Andrea Rossi - We follow the events related to ' E-Cat Andrea Rossi and the cold fusion for several months, we talked about the doubts raised by some bloggers and enthusiasm of others and the reactions that we have been following the two tests of the plant by 1 MW, in particular the ' last place in Bologna on October 28. (GreenStyle.ig; November 7, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 08:29, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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  • Waiting for Cold Fusion - Mark Gibbs writes: "I’m sorry to report that there still appears to be no news one way or the other as to the reality of Rossi’s claims." (Forbes; November 6, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 08:04, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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I noticed that the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer page has removed its "deletion" vote page. So I presume after a week of extensive debate, they finally decided to keep the page.

Here's the link to the discussion page for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Energy_Catalyzer

It had some good (and bad) info aggregated.

We copied the original page at PowerPedia:Energy Catalyzer

-- SilverThunder 07:56, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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  • Featured / Best Exotic FE: Nuclear > Cold Fusion > Rossi >
    Mainstream News of Andrea Rossi's LENR E-Cat - We've posted an index page listing the mainstream news coverage that has come in on Andrea Rossi's cold fusion E-Cat technology, now including: Wired, Popular Science, Discovery, CBS News, Fox, Washington Times, PhysOrg, Slashdot, Yahoo News, Daily Mail, MSNBC, LiveScience, Forbes, EE Times, Gizmodo, Renewable Energy World, Times of India, Zerohedge... (PESWiki; November 7, 2011)

-- SilverThunder 06:47, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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Submitted to Slashdot:

Andrea Rossi's apparent cold fusion success
An anonymous reader writes "Has cold fusion arrived in the marketplace in the form of a 1 MW plant? Wired.co.uk has an article that debunks the accusations of fraud by pointing out Andrea Rossi's scam-inconsistent requirement that the 1 MW plant customers be "qualified," large companies (who have lots of attorneys and legal jargon in contracts), who first validate the technology for themselves before the purchase is complete. On October 28, in Bologna, Italy, the first plant was tested and sold for to an undisclosed customer who was satisfied with the demonstration of 479 kilowatts of continuous power during a self-sustaining mode that ran for 5.5 hours before they turned it off. The present one-off price is $2000 per kW; but once mass produced, Rossi expects that price to drop to $100/kW -- ten times cheaper than coal or natural gas power; without any radioactive feedstock or waste. Has the holy grail of energy arrived? Join the discussion that is beginning to percolate through the mainstream press."

-- SilverThunder 06:34, 7 November 2011 (PST)

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The following forum thread has been started at Discovery channel's Mythbusters section:

  • Andrea Rossi E-Cat produces a nuclear reation - October 2011 saw a flurry of internet activity as Inventor/engineer Andrea Rossi claimed to have created a small device that accomplished cold fussion or what is now called LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reation). His device is now supposedly on the market, available to purchase. It would be really cool for myth busters and be able to rule out that the device uses any chemical or electro chemical methods to producing heat.
    This has been a recent development that the major news organizations have been slow to pick up on. Recently however Fox News, Forbes and MSNBC have all written stories on these developments. I know this isn't new to anyone at mythbusters seeing how Discovery has also paid some attention to it.
    Please do what none of the other news organizations have been willing to do. Dig deeper and see if you can get some answers!
    I would be thrilled to see an episode on this. Thanks!
    J.N.
    http://www.e-catworld.com/

-- SilverThunder 04:08, 7 November 2011 (PST)

Sunday, November 6, 2011

  • Best Exotic FE: Nuclear > Cold Fusion > Rossi >
    What to make of Andrea Rossi's apparent cold fusion success - This friendly article debunks the accusations of fraud by pointing out Rossi's fraud-inconsistent requirement that the 1 MW plant customers be "qualified," large companies (who have lots of attorneys and legal jargon in contracts), who first validate the technology for themselves before the purchase is complete. (Wired.co.uk; November 6, 2011) [Note: quite a bit of recent mainstream coverage of the E-Cat.]

-- SilverThunder 20:29, 6 November 2011 (PST)

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AGI (Agenzia Giornalistica Italiana - Italian Journalist Agency - is one of the main Italian news agency) published a bulletin concerning the E-Cat:

ENGLISH VERSION

http://www.agi.it/english-version/italy/elenco-notizie/201111060750-cro-ren1006-two_italian_researchers_relaunch_cold_fusion_to_get_energy

TWO ITALIAN RESEARCHERS RELAUNCH COLD FUSION TO GET ENERGY
07:50 06 NOV 2011

(AGI) Bologna - Twenty-years since Martin Fleischman's and Stanley Pos' experiment, 2 Italian researchers go back to cold fusion. Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi hope to get safe and unlimited energy. In their machine "E-Cat", three hydrogen and nickel atoms produced ten times the energy uptaken, due to a still unexplained reaction. This occurred at low temperatures and with no radiation emission


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ITALIAN VERSION (same but in Italian)

http://www.agi.it/rubriche/ultime-notizie-page/201111060741-cro-rom0006-energia_2_ricercatori_italiani_rilanciano_fusione_fredda

ENERGIA: 2 RICERCATORI ITALIANI RILANCIANO FUSIONE FREDDA
07:41 06 NOV 2011

(AGI) Bologna - A 22 anni dall'esperimento di Martin Fleschman e Stanley Pons due ricercatori italiani, Andrea Rossi e Sergio Focardi, rilanciano le speranze di ottenere energia illimitata e sicura dalla 'fusione a freddo'. Nella loro macchina 'E-Cat', grazie a una reazione ancora inspiegabile, tre atomi di idrogeno e nickel sono riusciti a produrre dieci volte l'energia immessa. Il tutto a temperature basse e senza emissione di radiazioni

--Francesco 09:23, 6 November 2011 (PST)

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New article from Wired about the E-Cat:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-11/06/cold-fusion-heating-up

--Francesco 09:20, 6 November 2011 (PST)

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I just composed the following for Andrea Rossi's consideration:

Hi Andrea,

I've been meaning to bring a method to your attention that might be a good match for the E-Cat for efficiently generating electricity.

A few years ago, we covered/attended the launch of a geothermal plant here in Utah by Raser Technologies. Directory:Raser_Technologies_-_Geothermal_and_Waste_Heat_Harvesting

Here's a graphic Kevn pulled together (the guy who did our logo) as an overview of the technology.

Image:RaserTechGeothermalPump300x300_byKevn.jpg

They are able to take relatively low-temperature geothermal, pass it through a heat exchanger that has a low-boiling point refrigerant liquid, which easily goes to steam turning a turbine, which generates electricity.

It's actually a commercial heat pump running in reverse (heat applied to generate electricity).

This might be a lot easier than a Stirling engine...

Something to think about.

-- SilverThunder 08:53, 6 November 2011 (PST)

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