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A trio of inventors from Tennessee have design a system that they say can fuellessly run a home or a vehicle, or other devices.
The system consists of a 12-volt battery running an AC motor via an inverter. The AC motor turns an alternator, which recharges both the 12-volt battery and another it is connected to in series. That 24-volt battery array then powers a hydraulic motor to turn the flywheel.
This set-up appears like the epitome perpetual motion design that no sane scientist would ever think to try, lacking the imagination that such a design could allow for harnessing some unseen energy source.
Several working prototypes have allegedly been built. Four are said to be working at present. However, the claim has not yet been independently validated.
- On July 30, 2007 from 2:00 - 2:55 pm Central time, Sterling D. Allan will be conducting a live interview with Andrew Lamb, as part of the [http:freeenergynow.net Free Energy Now] radio series.
Randy and Andrew approached their local newspaper about their technology and a story is published after a reporter sees the technology in operation.  Art Tyler sees a blurb about the accomplishment on Fox 17 News and contacts the inventor pair to work together with them. Together, they file a patent.
Randy Nichols begins hatching the idea. He is joined later by Andrew Lamb, who helps him refine it.
Art Tyler joins what he terms a "patent protection"(?) program on his design.
How it Works
Source: Andrew Lamb to Sterling D. Allan via phone conversation on July 19, 2007.
The company is not yet giving out details about how their system works, as they are awaiting patent "pending" status [if patent has been filed, then it is "pending" already ()]. The following information is as much as they are willing to disclose at this time.
The gasoline engine is removed.
A hydraulic pump forces the fluid to a hydraulic motor. The hydraulic motor turns the flywheel. The flywheel is what is connected to the transmission in a gasoline engine. From the flywheel to the back wheels, nothing has been modified.
The hydraulic pump is powered by 24 volts via two 12-volt car batteries wired in series. (+)-(-) and (-)-(+)
In one of their set-ups, one of the two 12-volt batteries powers a small off-the-shelf AC motor via an inverter.
The AC motor turns an off-the-shelf alternator, which then recharges the batteries.
The key to the design is in the charging system, which is the was the hardest part of the design. It took Randy and Andrew about eight months to get right.
This certainly appears to be a perpetual motion device, powering itself -- a scientific "impossibility". The claimed fact of the matter, as witnessed by the Shelbyville Times-Gazette reporter, is that the system yields a net energy gain -- enough to power a vehicle or a home. If it proves out under rigorous scientific investigation, an explanation for how it works might have something to do with some Tesla-like, exotic electrical stuff going on between the standard electrical components of the system, that somehow taps external energy from the environment.
"We're just dumb country boys from Tennessee," says Andrew Lamb. They didn't know it is impossible, they just did it -- or at least claim to have done so. An independent validation is yet pending.
Filed in June, 2007
Validation -- Not Yet
Times-Gazetter Reporter Witness
Brian Mosely of the Shelbyville Times-Gazette witnessed the converted Nissan 4x4 truck run at about 10 miles per hour in June, 2007. They demonstrated it rolling for about 30 seconds, going at about 10 mph. It was running roughly. They were having some problems with it. The wiring had a back-yard, piece-together appearance. A skeptic could claim that the vehicle could have run for that long just on the two 12-volt batteries.
Mosely reported that under the hood of the modified Nissan 4x4 were "two car batteries, an AC/DC converter, a hydraulic motor, a small electric motor and various hoses are left sitting around the empty space which once housed the engine. The rear part of the truck has been stripped back to show no gas tank or exhaust system." 
New Energy Congress review pending
Andrew Lamb told Sterling D. Allan on July 18, 2007 that once the patent "pending" status has been achieved, they would allow the New Energy Congress to come in and validate that the technology functions as claimed. [If a patent has been filed, then it is "pending" already ()].
Lamb says they have built many prototypes. There are four working prototypes at present, which are sequestered for security purposes.
Lamb says that their technology has powered a Nissan, running in low 4-wheel drive, to run at 40 miles per hour; and they have gotten a Nissan Pathfinder to run at 62 miles per hour. Lamb said he drove the Nissan 4x4 300 miles once, without stopping for charge.
Lamb says that what the company plans to produce will be a stand-alone unit that will drop down into a car in the place of their existing engine.
They are also working on a generator for home power.
Company: None Yet
The group has not yet incorporated. They have hired an attorney to handle the patent and other legal issues.
They are ready to build the company into a business to bring the technology to market. They don't want to sell the technology outright.
Lamb says they have been in communication with Al Gore, Sir Richard Branson of Virgin, and GM; but they do not have contracts with any of these yet.
Three people have been involved in inventing and refining of this technology so far.
Art Tyler developed the system independently in 1992.
Randy Nichols, a truck driver, began dreaming up the design in around 1997. He was later joined by Andrew Lamb, who owns a construction company, and helped Nichols refine the concept, especially the electronics in the charging system.
The three hooked up in June, 2007 following the Shelbyville Times-Gazette coverage, and decided to work together, rather than compete.
In the News
- Fox 17 News had a brief blurb on it.
- Inventors claim truck runs on hydraulic power (by Brian Mosely) - Two inventors have rebuilt a truck to run on just two car batteries, an AC/DC converter, a hydraulic motor and a small electric motor. The truck also has a complete charging system, which was the hardest part of the design. "You never have to fill it up," claim the inventors. (Shelbyville Times-Gazette; Jun. 19, 2007)
Maybe there's something in the water in Tennessee.
The design as described above is nearly identical to the set-up described by Carl Tilley of the Tilley Foundation (also founded in TN). Many people who worked close to that technology swear that it works, but also decry Tilley's lack of ethics in his business practices. However, when pressed for details about the rigor and adequacy of the tests run to validate that technology, the answers fall short.
On July 20, 2007, a former Tilley Foundation shareholder said:
- "I did not determine 'indisputably' the benefit of the Tilley device. This is one of the issues in the Federal Court action [three] stockholders have against him as I understand it. There had been calls for truly independent verification testing but he would only do demonstrations he controlled on his property. Many stockholders wanted more than that. When anyone asked questions and started to push harder for independent tests, he turned on them and did things to discredit that person in the eyes of the other stockholders."
- Directory:Tilley Foundation, Inc. - coverage here at PESWiki
- http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/ - precursor to FreeEnergyNews.com
- http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.tilleyfoundation.com - archive of the official webiste (last date archived, that the site was up, was Jun 16, 2006)
- Receipt of Joint Tilley-Kibbey Patent Filing: DC - "Battery charging system with DC generator and having load-accepting capabilities." Dated 12/21/2001. confirmation no. 6069. [Provisional, expired Dec. 2002]
- Receipt of Joint Tilley-Kibbey Patent Filing: AC - "Battery charging system with AC generator and having load-accepting capabilities." Dated 12/26/2001. confirmation no. 6072. [Provisional, expired Dec. 2002]
See Discussion page
New Energy Congress member comments
The Math Shows 21% Efficiency
On July 19, 2007, NEC Advisor, Jim Dunn wrote:
Which of the components do they claim are over-unity?
If you work the math, the device will have to be well over 500% OU to break even:
12-volt battery running an AC motor via an inverter. Inverter = 70% x AC Motor @ 80% = 56%
The AC motor turns an alternator, (70%) which recharges both the 12-volt battery and another it is connected to in series (batteries @ 80% recovered).
Thus we have 56% after AC Motor x 70% (Alternator) x 80% Turnaround eff. of Batts = net of 30%
That 24-volt battery array then powers a hydraulic motor to turn the flywheel.
Then this propels the car via a hydraulic motor @ 70% = 21% overall maximum thruput less usual losses in the tranny and drivetrain. So the net overall is worse than any current IC engine.
With the batteries fully charged prior to a demo run, they could probably go 8-10 miles at 40-50 mph.
Where is their novel technology inserted?
This offers no net benefit unless there is a significant O/U device somewhere in this mix.
Shelbyville, TN USA