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Design by Steven Spisak. Art work by Jim Rodney, NEST.
Design by Steven Spisak. Art work by Jim Rodney, NEST.

Compiled by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
September 5, 2012


Picture this. You have a motor turning a larger output generator, and the generator is producing enough energy to keep the motor running, as well as enough left over to power other things. (It's a little more complicated than this, but that is the general idea.) All you need to get it going is a starter motor, temporarily, like on an automobile engine, and once the system is going, it stays going, unless it is shut off.

Sounds like a clear case of violating the law of conservation of energy, right?

Apparently not. I've now know of at least three independent situations where this is claimed to be the case. Two of those are very credible, and I hope to be reporting more on them in the coming days and weeks.

How is energy showing up?

Contents

Karl Palsness' Theory

I had a chat yesterday with Karl Palsness, who is an expert on Tesla technology. He has also heard of several cases like this, all independent from one another.

"I know exactly what you're talking about. I've done a lot of work in that area. That's amazing. I've heard this from so many people now, that this works.
"From what has been observed, you're playing with the phasing angles between the motor and the generator, and when the phasing angles are out of phase, you're getting into what is called 'power factor'. When you get the power factor right, the current and voltage are out of phase, and when you get them meshed up enough, it actually self-runs and produces excess energy.
"This theory is based on magnetic flux. Permanent magnets or electromagnets such as in a generator or a motor, under certain conditions, give overunity (OU) behavior. But there's more to it than that, from what I've seen myself in overunity devices. It is all about geometry of the system. How and where a permanent magnet gets it's energy, is still a very big mystery to science. Excess energy can appear in electromagnets, as well.
"I've seen this effect on generators. When you have a generator that's turning too big of a load, and you have big enough breakers to handle the current, the currents go way up. Imagine if you have 500 Volts at 1 Amp; you have 500 Watts. Or you can have 500 Amps with one Volt; and you have 500 Watts. So when you get huge amps and low voltages in between the phasing angles, the current and magnetic fields are so collapsing and rising, and the phase angles are 'wrong', I believe that the magnetic field is coupling with, I'd have to say the word: 'The Vacuum'. In other words, it's coupling with an unknown -- whatever makes the permanent magnet work. We truly don't understand the science of that. There are a lot of theories, but no proof yet. Permanent magnets are still one of those unknowns, as to why it does what it does. And that's the same thing with electromagnets. There are a lot of unknowns.
"So when we kept playing with the power factors and phase angles, I believe there is overunity. I've seen it so many times now, with so many different people, that if I had the money, I would go out and buy the parts to do the testing in this area myself.
"Remember that guy [...confidential / U.S....]. He's doing the same thing. He has a small motor turning a big generator, and it's out of phase, and the power factor is out. There's a guy in South Africa that's doing the same thing. He's got a motor connected to a bigger generator, and it's doing the same thing. There's a guy in South America, (the blind guy from welding) (Force Multiplier System). He had a motor turning a generator, via shaky gear connection. That's doing the same thing.
"There are a lot of people claiming this. It's getting to the point that there are so many people claiming it, that are unrelated to one another, that I'd have to say that it holds a lot of potential.
"And I have a theory behind it. I actually wrote a whole chapter on that in my book about the science of how to do it in a much more elegant method than they are doing it now, based on what they are doing right now. The problem is, I don't have the funds to do it. That book is my research journal, and I don't have plans at the current time on publishing it – my notes as you work every day. I've got a lot of time and money into that. If what they are doing indeed works, I believe it can take it to the next level and make it a much better product and bring it to market. At the current time, I don't want to give that idea out, as it is still just an unproven theory of a way that might work. I'd like to bring it to fruition in the future if I can prove it works."


Companies

TechnoKontrol

Image:TechnoKontrol_motor-generator_400.jpg

German 10 kW

At the Yildiz Demo on April 11 or 12, 2013, I met a couple of businessmen who said they are working on a 10 kW self-looped motor-generator system. They said it works. They're refining it to bring it to market. They don't wish to be made public at this time, other than just vague generalities. -- Sterling

MSVEX Gyro-Generator

Platinum Invests Group

  • Featured: Electromagnetic > Q-Mo-Gens >
    E-MAG Magnetic Propulsion Engine by Platinum Invests Group - A company out of Spain called, Platinum Invests Group, headed by Dr. Umberto Stranieri, appears to have an exotic free energy generator system they call E-MAG that involves magnetic propulsion, which appears to be approaching market readiness. They also have a "molecular dissociation via plasma" technology already implemented. (PESWiki; June 19, 2013)

Power JMD

Self-Charging Q2

Kasper says: "The guy from Quantamagnetics is doing some very interesting stuff with his motor/generator:

Navrattan Free Power Corp. Ltd.

  • Caution - Integrity/reliability is not that great.

I've seen photos and videos. Very similar to TechnoKontrol's, but for household power.

5.5 kW system using off-the-shelf parts. As of August, 2012, it had been tested, powering a household type load (5.5 kW) continuously for 50 hours in self-looped mode, at which point the belt started smoking due to inadequate engineering.

December 14, 2012 update: The system has reportedly been thoroughly engineered and tested and is now ready to go into production. Commercial roll-out of a 5.5 kW home power system is expected in April, 2013 for distribution in India. Export is also being considered.

February 26, 2013 update: "Everything is going well." There is an small delay for commercializing the product in the market, but they are still pretty well on track.

April 2013 update: They are allegedly now going into production. They are building manufacturing plants; and they are entertaining licensing for this technology. The down side is that they are still many months away from these products actually being available for customers. It takes time to ramp up the manufacturing plants. [1]

Indonesia / usweentop

See Directory:Self-Looped Motor-Generator by usweentop - separate page

On April 21, 2012, an Indonesian inventor posted a video showing a smaller motor powering a larger generator that produces enough power to run the smaller motor, with power left over to run a hammer drill (possibly more). The system is turned on while plugged into the wall. Then a switch is toggled and the cord is unplugged from the wall. Then the self-looped system powers the hammer drill.

  • Featured: Electromagnetic > Self-Looped Motor-Generators >
    Self-Looped Motor-Generator by usweentop - An Indonesian inventor has posted a video showing a smaller motor powering a larger generator that produces enough power to run the smaller motor, with power left over to run a two 1000-watt water heaters. The system is turned on while plugged into the wall. Then a switch is toggled and the cord is unplugged from the wall. (PESWiki; October 9, 2012)

Fernando Sixto Ramos Solano

Peruvian inventor who received inventor award in Geneva, Switzerland.

Image:Fernando_Force_Multiplier_300.jpg

WITTS

BUYER BEWARE: "I know people who have given Tim a lot of money and have never gotten anything for it." -- Quote from a pillar in the community, September 5, 2012

(1,765,084 visits since posting on Aug 28, 2010)

Aviso

Maybe this is what is behind Aviso's effect.

On September 5, 2012, Ismael wrote:

"100% agreed OU..Spisak is the same on planeraty gear like what with Toyota Prius from Small to big gear & vice versa, to get the mechanical advantages. Similar to my OU .. but in the form of capacitor. GEAR = Capacitor... Small volt but big micro farad & vice versa. Big volts with small microfarad at different stages; ...more cheaper & quick to assemble & durable in many millions of times."
"Most gear designers forget the mechanical resonant .. like what Tesla has done on his mechanical oscillator. I think that is one reason why a lot did not reach yet into an applicable level."

UFOPolitics

  • "A Quick Demo (Uncut, Unedited...RAW Video) of the First Encounter between a "revived" Old Concept from Nikola Tesla...from His Banned Asymmetrical Machines...and the Chosen ONLY MODEL they had taught Us All...The Symmetry of the Darkness...We are turning a Mecc Alte Generator Head, 6000Watts...with 36V/33Amps Small AGM Battery Bank...and an Asymmetric Rewound-Modified Motor..." (YouTube / UFOPolitics; December 12, 2012)
  • http://www.youtube.com/user/ufopolitics?feature=watch
  • p. 55 of Patrick Kelly doc.

USA anon

Scott Bales of DeepEarthBunkers, and host to a program on the Discovery Channel (he is lining me up to do a Free Energy Quest reality show), was talking to me the other day about someone doing something along these lines. I sent him a link to this page and asked if this was along the same lines, and he replied today:

"Exactly."

Tim Hall

Tim Hall of Kona, Hawaii. <timhall@om1111.com>

Has a DC, 36-V motor running a windmill AC generator, rectifying it and running home lighting. Appeared to have a force multiplier effect.

Motor would spin 1 time, alternator spin 6 times, through gear pulley system.

On May 21, 2012 2:15:25 PM HST, I wrote:

I've got a friend who is using off-the-shelf components involving a certain type of DC motor and a certain kind of alternator whereby he claims to be getting up to 2x more power from a solar panel.
He's getting ~200 W from a 64-W panel set.
It's the craziest thing. You would never expect it to work, but would expect it to diminish per expected losses.
He wants to get independent validation of the technology, but also wants to protect the proprietary idea under conditions of confidentiality.
If you have access to solar panels (probably not required, could be any DC source?), and you're interested in enter under NDA to replicate the effect, let me know. Also, perhaps you want to wait until after 1 or 2 others have replicated it first.
I have a recording of our phone call today if you want to listen to it (after signing NDA).
He's going to supply me with a parts list and instructions, which should be ready by tomorrow morning.
He's willing to open source it, if it's valid, through NEST/PES.

S. African FFG

Roobert33

Partial effects illustrated:

(380,569 visits since posting on August 25, 2011)
"This video is only for the purpose of vision and curiosity, it has nothing of use in the field of application of free energy. Test to see how long it takes a generator to run an electric motor.
The current from the batteries goes to the motor that attached to the generator shaft refers the current to the engine and everything goes as long as it doesn't decay for electrical load and friction."

(356,476 visits since posting on Dec 17, 2011)

Steven Spisak

From Florida, USA. Talks about this openly on his Facebook posts. He told me he has built several kilowatt-level units that are presently running people's houses.

See http://www.facebook.com/UNITYsystems

Image:Steve_Spisak_diagram-by-Jim-Rodney_NEST_400.jpg

On September 4, 2012, Steve wrote to me:

"I am currently building a 5 kW output 12 kW total unit power. The 1st model will be small, belt-driven, very light, and can prove the tech, give a show and tell unit, and convert jeep to electric, lol, using a 3 kW max 350 hp 8000 rpm motor not needed to prove it works tho. Total build cost is under $3000 and not a single custom part is needed; 100% off shelf and can be carried by hand.
"I have figured out all calculations that I needed for the 100 kW unit. But with the new motors, I found I can get 600 kW (yes, I meant 600 kW) out of a small bit more space at half the power usage for the system :)
"I am in process of buying first house and will be paid off very very soon. Soon, I will have money to roll all my units to you to play with and test til your eyeballs fall out, lol. I can't wait to read all the reports!
"I have been learning more math and bettering my welding, wiring, and general skills.
"Update on design: No more starter motor. I'm using a set (12) of spiral cell batteries wired like in a golf cart, with inverter direct to motor (will make it run for about 20 minutes, only need 2-5) pack is then wheeled away and connected to small solar charger to trickle charge back up."

YouTube channel: here

email: stevespisak1@gmail.com

donate: via PayPal (direct link) to misswinkie18@hotmail.com

announced open source here:

Cautionary Statement about Spisak

May 28, 2013 Update

I'd be a bit cautious on Spisak. He presented this concept about 6 months before I began taking it seriously, when Himansh showed me evidence that this really works, followed the next morning, independently, by someone else telling me about TechnoKontrol in Spain having essentially the same arrangement of components with similar results, scaled even larger.

However, Spisak has never provided any evidence to corroborate anything he has ever claimed. No receipts, no photos, no videos, no witnesses willing to corroborate, other than of recent rebuild attempts, which appear more like first-time R&D than of repeating previous success. I would love for Stephen to vindicate himself; but at this point, he appears to me to be a dreamer, and a story teller, to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

None of his recent stuff has worked in self-looped manner. Yet.

He has had a number of people step forward volunteering funds needed to build such a system, per his specs, but when he builds per those specs, those systems have not operated as expected. The good faith that people have extended him, minus any evidence of past success that he claims, does not vindicate him.

I do not recommend that anyone else finance his research and development, which so far has proven only to be wishful thinking based on fantasy, not fact.

-- Sterling D. Allan

Doug Konzen

  • Featured / OS: Electromagnetic > Self-Looped Motor-Generators >
    Doug Konzen (Konehead) on Self-Looped Generators - "Yes, I know HOW...but I do not have any "motor-generator" looper in my possession. But [I] do have some test-models... What you need is a generator that doesn't slow [down] when it makes power, in fact, one that SPEEDS UP when it makes power is even better [than one that just self-sustains]. (PESWiki; December 5, 2012)

James D. Hardy

Bowling Effect

alex993cc1

Playing on the edges of the effect:

Joe Tomicki

Probably bogus.

  • Featured / OS: Electromagnetic > Self-Looped Motor-Generators >
    OS: Motor-Alternator Self-Looped System by Joe Tomicki (Probably bogus) - An inventor from Dallas, TX, is openly sharing a system that entails hooking up a motor to an alternator that powers a bank of batteries which powers a house through an inverter (similar to a solar setup). The three batteries in series that power the drive motor are manually topped off as needed through a battery charger that also plugs into the inverter. (PESWiki; December 4, 2012)

In the News

  • Featured: Electromagnetic > Self-Looped Motor-Generators >
    Self-Looped Motor-Generator by usweentop - An Indonesian inventor has posted a video showing a smaller motor powering a larger generator that produces enough power to run the smaller motor, with power left over to run a two 1000-watt water heaters. The system is turned on while plugged into the wall. Then a switch is toggled and the cord is unplugged from the wall. (PESWiki; October 9, 2012)
  • Featured / Top 5: Electromagnetic >
    Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over - Featuring a number of systems in which a motor turns a larger output generator, and the generator is producing enough energy to keep the motor running, as well as enough left over to power other things. A starter motor, temporarily, gets it going; then it stays going until turned off. Energy source could have something to do with phase angle harvesting vacuum energy. (PESWiki; September 5, 2012)

Forum

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-Mo-Gen - An open source project to prove, validate, characterize, improve, theorize the scientific reasoning, and propagate the self-looped motor-generator concept in which a smaller motor powers a larger generator, with power from the generator keeping the motor going, with energy left over for practical use.

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