Directory:Milkovic Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator
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Serbian inventor, Veljko Milković, shows how leveraged secondary oscillations evince around twelve times more energy than the input energy supplied to the primary pendulum.
- "This does not appear to be a primary energy source, such as solar, but serves as a lever to amplify an existing energy source many times. The act of keeping the primary pendulum swinging through minimal energy input computes to a leveraged energy output via the resulting secondary oscillations. Anyone involved in mechanical energy, whether in the generation or in the application thereof, ought to consider using this lever mechanism to amplify / economize the system." -- Sterling D. Allan, Dec. 12, 2006
The primary obstacle that must be overcome in convincing the skeptics is satisfaction that the input:output energy is in accordance with the simple but very relevant equation . . . Work = Force x Distance.
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Official Website
- http://www.veljkomilkovic.com
- English index (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/indexEng.htm)
- Prototypes (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PrototipiEng.html)
Latest Developments
July 23, 2008
- Video: Cart with a pendulum - Vehicles with internal and inertial drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foY5r2TMOo) (7 min) – New video presentation of Serbian inventor, Veljko Milkovic, demonstrating his perennial research work on the idea of moving vehicle without indirect mechanism (transmission). Milkovic explains a new power and how the isolated powers can perform one-way moving of model using tensile forces of physical pendulum. There is also an attempt to improve and to confirm the law of action and reaction (The third Newton’s law), which hadn’t undergone any revision from its beginning. (veljkomilkovic.com, July 23, 2008)
July 16, 2008
- Modeling and Simulation of a Double Pendulum With Pad (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Bojan_Petkovic-Modeling_and_Simulation_of_a_Double_Pendulum_With_Pad.pdf) (pdf) - An independent mathematical analysis by Bojan Petkovic considers the Veljko Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator in a form of double pendulum with a pad that presents a mechanical system which is not analyzed in the literature. (veljkomilkovic.com, July 16, 2008)
June 7, 2008
- Calculation of Energy Surplus of the Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator in the experiment with manual dynamo lamps (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_3-experiment_dynamo_lamps.pdf) (pdf) - In one more analysis and measurement, Jovan Bebic considers the efficiency of Veljko Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator in the famous experiment with the hand flashlights and reports that the output/input ratio is 2.8 times in his same replicated experiment. (June 7, 2008)
May 19, 2008
- On the Track of the Energy surplus of a Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator by Veljko Milkovic (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Ljubo_Panic.pdf) - Ljubo Panic provides additional theoretical and mathematical support for why Veljko Mikovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator results in excess energy out, compared to what is put in, by better explanation of the influence of the centrifugal force during operation of the two-stage mechanical oscillator.
May 4, 2008
- Original scientific paper - Free energy of the oscillating pendulum-lever system (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Nebojsa_Simin_paper_Free_Energy_of_the_oscillating_pendulum-lever_system.pdf) - full paper (135 KB PDF) - Theoretical support for Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator - Original scientific paper by professor and physicist, Nebojsa Simin, sets forth a theoretical and mathematical way to explain the energy excess in the two-stage oscillator set forth by Veljko Milkovic: "...The effect of creating the free energy results from the difference between the work of the orbital damping forces of the lever and the work of the radial damping force of the pendulum motion. This effect enables increase of the input energy. The coefficient of efficiency of the machine can be more than one." (May 4, 2008)
April 14, 2008
- Analysis of the influence of the centrifugal force during operation of the two-stage mechanical oscillator by Veljko Milković (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_1.pdf) (163 KB PDF) - Theoretical analysis by Jovan Bebić "...It seems clear that the influence of the centrifugal force is the key to the explanation of the energy surplus of the two-stage oscillator by Veljko Milković, the inventor." (April 14, 2008)
- Measuring the ratio of output and input energy of the two-stage mechanical oscillator by Veljko Milković (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_2-measuring.pdf) (254 KB PDF) - Measuring done by Jovan Bebić resulting with the excess energy "...Therefore, ratio of energy at the output and energy at the input is 22.89..." (April 14, 2008)
March 2, 2007
- New video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7447475730338349196) - Announcement of Veljko Milkovic for an academician and full member of Academy of Inventors of Serbia (SAIN) and his speech that took place in the state-room of Chamber of Commerce of Vojvodina, on 02nd March 2007 in Novi Sad (Serbia). Contents: presentation of inventions (eco-house, two-stage mechanical oscillations), innovations, patents, books, replications of two-stage mechanical oscillator, delivering of diploma... http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/SertifikatiEng.html Back up: Google video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7447475730338349196)
Jan. 22, 2008
- Model Builder's Guide To Understanding Veljko Milkovic's Two-stage Mechanical Oscillator (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Model_Building_Guidelines_by_Dr_Peter_Lindemann.pdf) (pdf) - Dr. Peter Lindemann presents guidelines for model builders who wish to replicate a working model of Veljko Milkovic's "Two-stage Mechanical Oscillator". (Jan. 22, 2008)
Sept. 11, 2007
- Theoretical support for Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator - Publication-pending paper by professor and physicist, Nebojsa Simin, sets forth a theoretical and mathematical way to explain the energy excess in the two-stage oscillator set forth by Veljko Milkovic. (PESWiki; Jan. 2, 2008)
May 5, 2007
- Witnessing Milkovic's Secondary Oscillator - Gorazd Klemencic and his wife visited Veljko Milkovic and describe their experience. "The excess of energy according to the input is very impressive."
April 24, 2007
- Hans von Lieven analysis#2 (http://keelytech.com/news/secondary.html) Harnessing Secondary Oscillations
- This paper discusses secondary oscillations, the physics involved and suggested applications. It involves the use of counterrotating weights to energise the pendulum.
April 9, 2007
- Hans von Lieven analysis (http://keelytech.com/news/milkovic.html) - Just a few ideas to toss into the ring in relation to the "Milkovic Device" April 9, 2007 - In this article methods are discussed to provide efficient and accurate ways to energise the pendulum as well as a suitable way to convert reciprocal movement into rotation. The animation is a suggested arrangement for a mechanical feedback system that would turn the device into a perpetual motion machine. It should not be taken too seriously. :-)
March 4, 2007
- Milkovic-Berrett Secondary Oscillator Generator - Brian Berrett of Lehi, Utah has built a two-wheel device that uses the two-stage mechanical oscillator principle set forth by Mikovic. The electrical output from the secondary wheel is far in excess of the electrical input required to maintain the primary pendulum oscillation on the first wheel.
Jan. 17, 2007
Italian association "A.S.S.E. - Associazione Studiosi Scienze Eterodosse" (http://asse.altervista.org) and publisher of "Altra Scienza" magazine translated Veljko Milković's book "Anti-gravity motor" into Italian language and published it in ebook format
Jan. 13, 2007
Mr. Ron Pugh (Canada) and his associates made their own prototype of two-stage oscillator and pendulum automatics
Jan. 4, 2007
Professional Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6377655322209610872) released by Lara.
Dec. 24, 2006
Peter Lindemann, D.Sc. (USA) wrote a positive opinion (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Opinion_Dr_Peter_Lindemann.PDF) on two-stage mechanical oscillator - 156 KB (PDF)
Nov. 14, 2006
New patent (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent24.jpg) - Instruments for checking oscillation with plate spring, pendulums with weights and wings - MP-28/05
Dec. 12, 2006
Milković's two-stage mechanical oscillator is listed on Top 100 Energy Technologies at Peswiki.com
Nov. 30, 2006
Overunity.com (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1763.0.html) - the international free energy research forum started the discussion and research on two-stage oscillator
Nov. 3, 2006
New patent (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent22a.jpg) - A machine for the production of energy from gravity potential with instruments for measuring efficiency - YU 49463 B - P-087/02
Sept. 21, 2006
Company Accord Case Ltd. London (UK) and Mr. Robert Schenk donated 500 € for the work and research of Veljko Milković
Videos
Source: http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PrototipiEng.html
- Universal Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator -- A Mechanical Amplifier (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6377655322209610872) (35 min) - Professionally filmed and edited video includes English subtitles. (Lara; Jan. 4, 2007) (back-up (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-8)_Universal_two-stage_oscillator_full_presentation.wmv) 32 mb, wmv)
- Overview Video (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-1)_full_video_presentation.wmv) (36 min; 44 Mb; wmv) - Presents basic concept with application illustrations; also provides validation documentation from credible institutions; list of papers, patents, degrees, awards. Translated with English subtitles. Dated May 2005.
- A device for testing single- and two-phase oscillations (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-2)_Device_for_testing.wmv) - excerpt from overview video, shows a simple "toy" for demonstrating the two-phase oscillation principle in contrast to a sing-phase oscillator.
- A laboratory pump with a pendulum (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-5)_Laboratory_pump.wmv) - excerpt from overview video, shows a water pump action, demonstrating the amplified input from the secondary oscillator movement.
- Mechanical Hammer with a Pendulum (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-4)_Mechanical_hammer.wmv) - excerpt from overview video, shows hammering action.
- 12000 rpm eccentric rotor (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-3)_Fast_model.wmv) - excerpt from overview video, shows drill with off-balance item in bit
- A device for testing single- and two-phase oscillations (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-2)_Device_for_testing.wmv) - excerpt from overview video, shows a simple "toy" for demonstrating the two-phase oscillation principle in contrast to a sing-phase oscillator.
- Squeeze flashlight illustration (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-7)_Universal_oscillator-generator.wmv) - one pumpable flashlight is more than adequate to keep the primary pendulum going which causes secondary oscillations adequate to pump a bank of such flashlights.(back-up (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1096213428559126446) Google video)
- Universal Oscillator-Hammer (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-6)_Universal_oscillator-hammer.wmv) - primary pendulum with little input lifts heavy weight in secondary oscillator.
- Veljko Milković - Hand water pump with a pendulum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpgl7o_1QI) - Filmed in 2004; posted February 02, 2008. (back-up (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8477898233322135982) Google video)
- Cart with a pendulum - Vehicles with internal and inertial drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foY5r2TMOo) (7 min, YouTube video, in English) - Filmed in 1996; posted July 22, 2008. (Timeline, July 22, 2008)
Mathematical and Theoretical Analyses
Mathematical Analyses
- Oscillation of the lever caused by the swinging of the pendulum (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Pendulum/Mathematical_analisys_Tosic_english.pdf) - Independent mathematical analysis by Academician professor Bratislav Tošic, in Novi Sad, Serbia, 2000.
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- Modeling and Simulation of a Double Pendulum With Pad (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Bojan_Petkovic-Modeling_and_Simulation_of_a_Double_Pendulum_With_Pad.pdf) (pdf) - An independent mathematical analysis by Bojan Petkovic considers the Veljko Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator in a form of double pendulum with a pad that presents a mechanical system which is not analyzed in the literature: "In this paper, results of the simulation of a double pendulum with a horizontal pad are presented. Pendulums are arranged in such a way that in the static equilibrium, small pendulum takes the vertical position, while the big pendulum is in a horizontal position and rests on the pad. Motion during one half oscillation is investigated. Impact of the big pendulum on the pad is considered to be ideally inelastic. Characteristic positions and angular velocities of both pendulums, as well as their energies at each instant of time are presented. Obtained results proved to be in accordance with the motion of the real physical system..." (veljkomilkovic.com, July 16, 2008)
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Theoretical Analyses
- Theoretical support for Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator - Original scientific paper by professor and physicist, Nebojsa Simin, sets forth a theoretical and mathematical way to explain the energy excess in the two-stage oscillator set forth by Veljko Milkovic. (PESWiki; May 4, 2008)
- Analysis of the influence of the centrifugal force during operation of the two-stage mechanical oscillator by Veljko Milković (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_1.pdf) (163 KB PDF) - Theoretical analysis by Jovan Bebić "...It seems clear that the influence of the centrifugal force is the key to the explanation of the energy surplus of the two-stage oscillator by Veljko Milković, the inventor." (April 14, 2008)
- On the Track of the Energy surplus of a Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator by Veljko Milkovic (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Ljubo_Panic.pdf) - Ljubo Panic provides additional theoretical and mathematical support for why Veljko Mikovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator results in excess energy out, compared to what is put in, by better explanation of the influence of the centrifugal force during operation of the two-stage mechanical oscillator.
This analysis has been inspired by a work published by Jovan Bebic (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_1.pdf), therefore this work is at the same time the development and a complement of his work. "Given the fact that F1 is always smaller than the total amount of the centrifugal force which is acting vertically downwards on the pendulum axis for small angles f, the conclusion is that the efficiency of a two-stage mechanical oscillator by Veljko Milković is always bigger than 1 because cosf is always less than 1!" (Mar. 3, 2008)
Measurements & Experiments
- Measuring the ratio of output and input energy of the two-stage mechanical oscillator by Veljko Milković (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_2-measuring.pdf) (254 KB PDF) - Measuring done by Jovan Bebić resulting with the excess energy "...Therefore, ratio of energy at the output and energy at the input is 22.89..." (April 14, 2008)
- Calculation of Energy Surplus of the Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator in the experiment with manual dynamo lamps (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_3-experiment_dynamo_lamps.pdf) (pdf) - In one more analysis and measurement, Jovan Bebic considers the efficiency of Veljko Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator in the famous experiment with the hand flashlights and reports that the output/input ratio is 2.8 times in his same replicated experiment. (June 7, 2008)
Patents
Several. 49002 B (Serbia)
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PatentiEng.html
Company Profile
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Inventor, Veljko Milković
Veljko Milković is the recipient of numerous degrees and awards, and has several referee's journal publications on the above subject, as well as patents. He has written and published and received patents in other areas as well, including an eco-home concept for energy-efficient design.
See also Wikipedia:Veljko_Milković
Awards
The technology was cited as: "an original scientific work" - the highest scientific rating achievable at the Association for the Development of Science (Nikola Tesla), and international conference held in Serbia and Montenegro.
In the News
- Google News > Milkovic (http://news.google.com/news?q=Milkovic) - null relevant on Dec. 11, 2006, and Feb. 28, 2007
Independent Replications
- Model Builder's Guide To Understanding Veljko Milkovic's Two-stage Mechanical Oscillator (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Model_Building_Guidelines_by_Dr_Peter_Lindemann.pdf) (pdf) - Dr. Peter Lindemann presents guidelines for model builders who wish to replicate a working model of Veljko Milkovic's "Two-stage Mechanical Oscillator". (Jan. 22, 2008)
Ron
May 13, 2008
Mk 5_3 Double Solenoid (back up (http://www.driveway.com/a8e6e8f3h8) 6.1 MB, wmv)
Rhead100
- http://www.youtube.com/user/RHEAD100
- testing large Milkovic 2 stage oscillator Video 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbWeI2Kam3s)
- testing large Milkovic 2 stage oscillator Video 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m07VAdJZnp8)
- testing large Milkovic 2 stage oscillator Video 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulAeyAjtzk)
On May 1, 2008, RHEAD100 wrote:
One test;; 8 ounces of force applied to the pendulum for a distance of 4 feet one time per cycle, will maintain the swing of the pendulum while the power bar on the out put end lifts 23 pounds. 6 inches, twice. In Another test ;; I attached a 10 pound weight to a 60 foot line and the other end of the line to the bicycle wheel. The ten pound weight was drug on the ground for the 60 feet, then snatched into the air, over 5 feet high where the force was so great, it broke the line ( #10 braded nylon ). And all this in just under 6 cycles of the pendulum.
Conclusion to date. If there “IS” something to this machine. It is in the math of “directly proportional” coupled with the math of “exponential“.
Brian Berrett
- Milkovic-Berrett Secondary Oscillator Generator - Brian Berrett of Lehi, Utah has built a two-wheel device that uses the two-stage mechanical oscillator principle set forth by Mikovic. The electrical output from the secondary wheel is far in excess of the electrical input required to maintain the primary pendulum oscillation on the first wheel.
- Proving the Secondary Oscillation Mechanical Amplification Effect (http://pesn.com/2007/03/18/9500462_Berrett_pendulums/) - Brian Berrett’s various test rigs demonstrate the gain derived in the secondary mechanical movement of a lever attached to a primary pendulum oscillator -- mechanical ‘overunity’ -- validating Veljko Milkovic’s claims. (PESN; Mar. 18, 2007)
Eddie Currentz -- mixed results
March 5, 2007
Hi Brian,
I read about your rig on Peswiki and was impressed. I have built a Milkovic two stage, like his water pump, with mixed results. I tried to fold back some of the mechanical energy to maintain the primary pendulum but couldn't get the right timing. I'm sure it can be done but I'm more inclined to an electrical solution like yours. I was just setting it up yesterday to use a Bedini monopole coil and a few magnets for my primary propulsion. The secondary can power a ratcheted wheel, such as the rear wheel of a bike, that is studded with magnets around it's perimeter. That would convert the high torque
to speed. This project has been on the back burner for a while but you have
given me some new ideas, thanks.
Von Ives -- negative results
- Secondary Oscillations > Ives Replication of Milkovic Secondary Oscillator - Von Ives reports that the results of his replication of the Milkovic secondary oscillator resulted in an output:input ratio showing about a 48.6% efficiency. He says that the "amplification" described is nothing more than simple leverage.
Comments
- Opinion on the Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator (http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Opinion_Dr_Peter_Lindemann.PDF) (156 KB PDF) - Supporting comments by Peter Lindemann, D.Sc. (USA). "Most of the discoveries in the field of Classical Mechanics were made in the 119th century and are embodied in Sir Isaac Newton's three laws of motion.. So it is surprising and unexpected that a new discovery in this field of science might be made in the last l0 years. ...This certainly ranks as one of the most important discoveries in science in the last 300 years."
NEC Remarks
Apply an Electromagnetic Coil
On Dec. 13, 2006, New Energy Congress member, Earl, wrote:
I am still on the fence about this idea. I do not think that the measurements until now have been very scientific.
One of my gut feelings is that there will never be a purely mechanical OU device.
However, I am intrigued by the fact that lever output does not reflect back to pendulum input. This disturbs me a bit. With a lightly oiled, open ball bearing, very little power should be necessary to keep a pendulum swinging at it natural resonant frequency. One could even enclose the weight in a light, aerodynamic envelope, or simply use an aerodynamic mold when casting the weight. Instead of the suspension being round or square, it could also be airfoil-shaped. Basically, the only losses are bearing friction and windage. The lever could also be airfoil-shaped in the direction of movement. The ball bearing(s) could be replaced with a magnetic bearing to achieve near-zero friction.
I am sure now that this is becoming wider known, that one or more peers will experiment with this and give peer reviews.
I suggest that a magnet be attached to the pendulum and repulsively pulsed N-N or S-S at its point of maximum velocity (bottom dead center) or slightly thereafter, by an electromagnet. The supply voltage to the pulsed electromagnet **MUST** go through a mult-pole low pass filter so that only constant, smoothed DC will be measured. This will give a very reliable and accurate DC input power measurement.
Then the lever will move a magnet in and out of a stator generator coil. If the voltage output is low, then Schottky diodes or active FET rectification will have to be used in order to lower losses. I suggest bi-filar wound coil for full-wave rectification. With more generator coil turns and higher voltages this becomes less necessary. With varying load there will be a point of maximum power output. Also use an electrical low-pass filter on the output power, so only pure DC is measured.
The proof of the pudding is the ratio of DC power in to DC power out.
Earl's theorem: non-reflection of output load to input power is a necessary, but not sufficient criteria for OU.
On Feb. 28, 2007, Earl revised his option:
'Getting more interesting. Time to test this very scientifically.
'Getting more compelling. In fact, it is tempting me to try some experiments. I find Veljko very sympathetic.
Needs to Pass Basic Test
March 19, 2007
A few years ago I was also enthusiastic to verify the principles and declare it valid: http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendpump.htm
However, the analysis has proven that there is no excess energy in this system. I have urged Milkovic to perform a scientifically valid measurement to prove the excess energy. But not the improvised and unscientific way he used to do “measurements” but, using a correct measurement setup. I have suggested a very simple measurement setup that would fit the purpose and it can be found on the page: http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/veljkomeasurement.htm
Nevertheless, Milkovic did not perform this simple measurement; and this confirms the validity of the mathematical analysis, ie. there is no free energy generated.
Many FE researchers struggle to achieve 200% efficiency that in most cases would be enough to make a positive feedback loop and keep the device in self-sustaining operation. Now, if Milkovic’s device really produces about 10 time more output power than the input (1000% efficiency) then it would be a child’s play to make any rudimentary positive feedback that would drive the primary pendulum. Milkovic still did not produce any self running device not even after so many years (if I were in his shoes this would be my first priority).
If you don’t want to waste too much time and energy on futile pursuits, then I would suggest you to perform the measurement suggested above first. If that proves any excess energy then glory to you and Milkovic, I will be the happiest man to check it out and spread the good news. If it does not show excess energy, then still you will have the credit for finally performing a scientifically decisive measurement that will put an end to the story.
Best regards,
Zoltan Losonc,
Birmingham
UK
email: [feprinciples {at} yahoo.com]
Later, on March 19, 2007
Yes, perhaps I should put a warning at the top of the first page of the series that analyzes the Milkovic invention. The reason for the missing declaration is that the first 2 pages were created before the final conclusions were made, and while I was full of hope and enthusiasm. Those pages are like presenting what the inventor had to offer up to that date.
The other pages are later additions as the project advanced. After concluding the examination that took about 2 months of hard work I totally forgot that the first pages might need to be updated. At the back of my mind, I thought that those who are really interested will click the forward button to see the continuation of the subject, in which case they will find the real conclusions. Here are the 6 pages that discuss the subject in detail:
- http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendpump.htm
- http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendhamme1.htm
- http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendtutor1.htm
- http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendan1.htm
- http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendan2.htm
- http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/veljkomeasurement.htm
If you decide to perform the suggested measurement and need further explanation about the measurement process let me know.
The cog wheels can be made by hand from 3-5mm thick Perspex sheet using drill, jigsaw, and precision files. The whole setup is not expensive. I did not build it for the simple reason that my analysis convinced me that there is no excess energy, and in a very unlikely event if I were mistaken then the inventor should be eager to prove me wrong. With other words he supposed to build the setup to prove his claim. Well this did not happen, and that convinced me even more that I was right and there is indeed no free energy in this setup.
The real info about the subject is on the above 6 pages.
Regards,
Zoltan
Basic misunderstanding?
What I gathered from the demo videos and articles is that this machine is capable of doing 12 times work than provided. I think there has been a basic problem with this. When pendulum is not moving, weights on both sides of fulcrum are equal and system is balanced. So far so good! Both weights have same potential energy. Now consider pendulum as counter weight and it just moves up and down instead of oscillating. Now if I apply force of X newtons on this counterweight to pull it downwards with say velocity V m/s, I am adding X multiplied by V energy to already existing potential energy of counterweight. Now with the principle of fulcrum, this added energy is going to act in equal but in opposite direction on the weight that we want to move what we call it as Torque and its going to go up. Now here we need to understand one basic fact that, main work of "balancing" the large weight of the Weight in consideration is done by the weight of Counterweight and not by added energy. So it would be "wrong" to say that I am giving force of X newtons only and doing the work of X times 12 newtons! This additional energy is utilized only to do additional work of lifting the weight, so the additional work you get = work you supplied to counterweight. This balances and follows the energy conservation law. It would be not possible to move this weight if I do not supply this "additional" force from outside the system. Now if I try to "close" this system, there is now way that system is going to get this "additional" energy from itself because it will just balance itself and come to full stop. I do not see any more advantage in using pendulum rather than using a counterweight. Its basically doing the same thing. If we believe the theory that pendulum becoming "weightless" at the end of swing and its transferring more energy than provided to the weight, then heavier the pendulum, more the work will be done! But this is not the case, because the moment you disturb the fulcrum, it will just collapse on heavier side! The counterweight has to be equal and opposite in order for fulcrum to work. This is a very common practice in Industry for lifting heavy weights, say using pulley or fly presses or lever mechanism! In these cases, a simple man can not lift 500 kg with his own hands, but using pulley he can! So will it be true saying, "See I normally can lift only 50 kg, but now I am lifting 500 kgs, so I have found a new way of getting 10 COP"? No! Because you are just following Newton's principles and laws of conservation of energy and masses!
So I believe that it is a misunderstanding to say that a small amount of input energy is generating more energy and out of generated energy, we can use small amount to give the input again and again, in other words we have got a "perpetual motion machine"! No matter how small the force required to pull the counterweight, it has to be "additional" and can not be obtained from system itself!
I may be wrong and this is just my analysis. Like others, I also hope this really works as a perpetual motion machine which the world is waiting since thousand of years!
Ashish Kulkarni
Related Coverage
- Just a few ideas to toss into the ring in relation to the "Milkovic Device" (http://www.keelytech.com/news.html) - Hans von Lieven posts his ideas regarding harnessing the secondary oscillation amplification effect; offering a few suggestions for experimenters, including a possible self-sustaining mechanism proposal. (KeelyTech; Apr. 9, 2007)
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Phone: +381 64 153 20 72 * international contact
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