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Compiled by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
August 5, 2013
On July 29, I had a conference call with inventor Chuck Pierce, PhD and his associate, Pat O'Connor, about their "Regen" technology that is a self-looped motor-generator system, or Q-mo-gen, as I call it; providing base-load power. This makes the 25th group I know of that has independently arrived at some kind of variation of this approach.
They had called me one or two years ago, and I put them in touch with an incubator group that has been validating their technology and is close to signing a contract with them.
Simply put, using off-the-shelf components, their system involves a starter motor that turns a flywheel which turns two generators. Once the generators are up to their rated speed, one of the generators powers a drive motor which, once it is up to speed, takes over for the starter motor, to turn the flywheel. With the starter now disconnected, the generators provide usable energy, in addition to powering the driver motor as well as recharging the batteries that powered the starter motor. He uses computer controls to coordinate these various functions. This is described in detail below in their patent application #US20080143302A1. This might sound like lifting yourself up by your own bootstraps, but somehow, this system draws energy from the environment, whether via a phase angle difference that sets up resonance with the environment, or via a magnetic dipole effect, or possibly via quantum tunneling, or a combination thereof, or something else yet to be determined.
Chuck said that back in 2003 during the massive black-out in the Northeast, while his neighbors were without power for 5 days, his house was "lit up like a Christmas tree". The unit also provided power for his fridge, DVD, VCR. The police stopped by and asked where he was getting his power. He said, "Have you ever heard of a generator?" They responded that it was awfully quiet, and moved on.
I don't quite understand what he means by this, but one of the things Chuck said is important in these systems is that the output generator not be hooked directly to the input motor. Maybe I've not studied the schematics close enough, but the diagrams seem to portray exactly that. He uses one generator to loop back, and another generator to provide usable power, both on the same belt.
The thing I'm most excited about is that they offered to build one for me to power my house. Chuck said he has built 17 of these so far, each of which have been a little different than the others, and all of which have worked. He said he would get me the prices of the components required. I'll probably drive a pick-up to pick it up myself, rather than having it shipped. Also, I would like to fly out there to see his existing prototype first-hand. Once I have the details, I hope to launch a crowdfunding project to raise the funds for the flight, the parts, and the transport, with 75% of the excess going to them for whatever they need it for.
Finally, after covering these exotic free energy technologies for more than 11 years, wouldn't it be great if I could install one in my home and disconnect from the grid!! It's about time!
After our call, Chuck called me back to make the point that if I have one installed in my house that there must be "no reverse engineering." I agreed; with the caveat that if things fell apart in the world, and I wanted to be able to propagate the technology, that I would send him a royalty for any units sold.
They said their present version produces 17 kW "usable" power, from a 40 kW capable generator combination. This should be more than ample to cover our peak load, when we have the heater or air conditioner on, while running other appliances in the house. They said the drive motor is only 3.5 kW.
And here's the rush: the expected price for this system, once commercial, is approximately $5,000 -- for a 17kW, load-following device to power a house, including covering peak load!
Chuck said he's been working on this for 25 years, and he said: "I've been generating power for 15 years," but not continuous. The longest he's run these has been for a few days.
He would like to get it into production, but he is having a hard time finding people who don't get hung up on the appearance that this involves some kind of perpetual motion skullduggery.
He said he had three nuclear engineers look at it, "blew them away". "We don't know how you did it." "You can't use Newtonian physics, maybe Maxwell's demon and quantum physics with some Einstein physics."
He also said that the technology has been third party tested by ESA, which does testing for NASA. They have that report in writing, which states that it is definitely self-sustaining. They ran their test for ten weeks at 10 - 12kW continuous.
He said that there have also been maybe 50-60+ people who have witnessed his system run.
So far, he said he's spent around $2.5 million (not counting his time) developing this technology over the years.
He said he first got the idea from a tractor. He noticed that the John Deer tricycle tractor was powered by a 2 cylinder Wisconsin motor. These tractors were used on everything. Even though the motor didn't have much power, they installed a huge flywheel, which gave it the same torque as a V8 engine. Chuck got the idea that if he spun up a flywheel at the same velocity, he could get the same torque in a generator. "Once I get the flywheel to its optimum velocity, it only requires 10% as much energy to keep it going."
"The damn thing actually works. Now we just need to get it out there."
My take on this is that the "magic" probably isn't in the flywheel, but in some kind of resonance that is set up between the motor(s) and the generator(s). The flywheel might help establish that resonance.
Chuck comes from a family whose name is well-known, especially in exotic free energy circles. The Pierce Arrow is a vehicle that Tesla modified to run from energy from the environment. Chuck thinks it involved the 8 mega-Hertz magnetic field of the Earth.
The family is also famous for the Pierce Oscillator, as well as the daylight sensors on street lights.
Given what I know so far, I've placed Chuck's Q-Mo-Gen in fifth place on that page; but once I get validation, and once I get a grasp on how long it will take them to go commercial with this, I could be moving it up to position #1 or #2 on that page, which would put it among the lead of the Top 5 Exotic Free Energy Technologies.
Chuck says that one could build a working system by following the patent, but that there are some secrets he uses to boost the performance of the system. If you happen to be successful in building these and selling them commercially, please do the right thing and regularly remit a royalty of at least 5% to Chuck.
None yet. This is the first coverage that has been given of this technology, with Chuck's permission.
Regen Demo with some Explanation
Video received from Charles Pierce for publishing, on August 5, 2013.
1500 W heater
2x 1000 W lights
1 x 500 W light
= 4000 W total
(assuming 230 V, gives ~17.4 amps)
misstated: "3000 W or 30 Amps"
misstated: "I can only find 3000 W to plug in at the moment"
"Right now we're at a 50% gain."
computer is at 25 Hz
motor is running at 120 Hz
so we're at 1/4 power
"We're accelerating quite a bit here." (Audible sounds like steady state, no change in speed.)
No vocal explanation
No vocal explanation
Battery inverter box with six 1000 A-h batteries with two 7.5 kW inverters (Enlarge)
Cover removed. (Enlarge)
During 10-week (not including weekends) ESA Testing in May-August 2012. Fluke meters calibrated and certified. White PVC hoses are for cooling. White holding tank. Can't see the condenser. This was a 20 kW unit. The 15th unit built. (Enlarge)
Flywheel in motion, 1800 rpm, 365 lbs. (Enlarge)
Large capacitor bank attached during ESA test. It was connected to a capacitor bank of 186 kW storage potential. Eighty-six (860 3500 uF storage capacitors in it. (Enlarge)
Chuck says the U.S. Patent office awarded a patent on this technology. I'm awaiting the patent number. He said that there are some modifications that the awarded patent has that are not in the provisional. For example, he only has one drive motor, which runs either from the battery for start-up, or from the output generator during steady state operation. Also, there are only two generators on the output side.
The following is a provisional that was published in August, 2008.
- Abandoned -- Failure to Respond to an Office Action according to http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair search for Application Number: 11/957,932
- Non-Final Rejection (pdf) - According to this office action, the invention was rejected on the grounds of inoperativeness. It was deemed a perpetual motion machine. The record for this application on Public PAIR shows applicant failed to reply to this office action and his application became abandoned.
- An electrical power generation system includes a kinetic energy storage device that drives at least one electric generator. A starter mechanism is coupled to the kinetic energy storage device to store an initial amount of kinetic energy in the storage device. At least one drive motor is also coupled to the kinetic energy storage device. The drive motor is configured to input kinetic energy into the kinetic energy storage device after the starter mechanism has input the initial amount of kinetic energy into the storage device to maintain the amount of kinetic energy in the storage device at an operational level. Some of the electrical power from the generator is used to power the drive motor and the remainder of the electrical power is output by the system.
- The electrical power generation system of the present invention includes a kinetic energy storage device that drives at least one electric generator. A starter mechanism is coupled to the kinetic energy storage device to store an initial amount of kinetic energy in the storage device. At least one drive motor is also coupled to the kinetic energy storage device. The drive motor is configured to input kinetic energy into the kinetic energy storage device after the starter mechanism has input the initial amount of kinetic energy into the storage device to maintain the amount of kinetic energy in the storage device at an operational level. Some of the electrical power from the generator is used to power the drive motor and the remainder of the electrical power is output by the system.
- FIGS. 1-3 provide an overview of a power generation system 10 that generates electrical power. FIG. 1 is a simplified schematic illustration that does not show the components in their proper positions with respect to one another and omits some of the structural supports for the various components. In addition, FIG. 1 shows a single start motor and drive motor while the described embodiment includes two start motors and two drive motors. FIGS. 2 and 3 better illustrate the mechanical layout of the power generation system 10 while omitting the electrical connections between the components. FIG. 4 provides the best detail of the electrical connections between the components.
- Referring to FIG. 1, the power generation system 10 includes a kinetic energy storage device in the form of a flywheel 21 shown supported by flywheel support structure 55. [...] In the described embodiment, the flywheel has a diameter of 18 inches and a mass of 65 pounds. The flywheel includes a shaft 22 that has two portions: an input portion 22 a and an output portion 22 b. The flywheel stores kinetic energy that is output on the shaft's output portion 22 b. The output portion 22 b is mechanically fixed to a pulley 59 that drives a generator belt 46. The generator belt is in turn coupled to a generator pulley 43 that is coupled to an input drive shaft on each generator. In this manner, rotational motion of the flywheel is transferred via the pulleys 43, 59 and belt 46 to drive the two generators 36, 37. In the described embodiment, both generators 36, 37 are rated at 220 V AC, 10 KW.
- Power output by the primary and secondary generators 36, 37 is routed to an external load, such as an electrical power grid. The control module 79 monitors the electrical power output by the generators and controls various power generation control components based on the output electrical power as will be described in more detail below.
- A kinetic energy storage device starter mechanism in the form of two start motors 26 (only one shown in FIG. 1) is configured to start rotation of the flywheel 21. In the described embodiment, each start motor is powered by 220 V AC and rated for 5 horsepower. As can also be seen in FIGS. 2 and 3, each start motor includes an output shaft 49 that is coupled to a centrifugal clutch 29. In the described embodiment the centrifugal clutch is rated for 24 foot-pounds of torque and engages at 2000 RPM. The centrifugal clutch 29 engages to transfer the rotation of the output shaft of each start motor to a start motor belt 51 when the output shaft 49 is rotating faster than 2000 RPM. At this operational speed the shaft can rotate the flywheel at a speed that causes the generators to output their rated power. The start motor belt 51 is coupled to a start pulley 64 on the input portion 22 a of the flywheel shaft. In this manner, the start motors can be activated to spin up the flywheel until the flywheel is rotating at an operational speed that is selected to drive the generators 36, 37 to output a desired rated amount of electrical power, in the described embodiment, the rated power of the generators is approximately 10 KW each at 220 V AC.
- Each start motor 26 is powered by a battery module 76 that includes eight 12 V DC batteries, each capable of providing 8000 cold cranking amperes. DC power from the battery module is converted to AC power by a DC to AC power converter 77 that converts the batteries' 12 V DC to 110 V AC. A step up transformer 78 steps the 110 V AC up to 220 V AC that can be used to power the start motors 26. While AC start motors are used to start the flywheel in the described embodiment, it will be recognized by one of skill in the art that DC motors or any other means of providing the initial kinetic energy for storage in the kinetic energy storage device can be used in accordance with the present invention.
- Once the flywheel is rotating at the operational speed and the generators are generating their rated power, the source of the flywheel's input power is transferred from the start motors 26 to the drive motors 48. In the described embodiment, the drive motors are rated for 10 horsepower at 220 V AC. An output shaft 27 of each drive motor 48 is mechanically coupled to the flywheel 21 through an electronically controlled electric clutch 28. In the described embodiment, the electric clutch is an electromagnetic clutch rated for 60 horsepower. The clutch is coupled to a drive motor belt 53 (also shown in FIGS. 2 and 3) that engages a drive belt pulley 66 on the input portion 22 a of the flywheel shaft. The electric clutch 28 is controlled by the control module 79 to selectively couple the drive motor shaft 27 to the flywheel when the drive motor speed matches the flywheel's speed. When the electric clutch 28 is engaged, power is disconnected from the start motors 26. Thus during steady state operation, the drive motors 48 maintain the kinetic energy stored in the flywheel and the flywheel continues to spin the generators to generate electric power. It is believed that the kinetic energy storing flywheel smoothes the effects of transitioning between start and drive motors and can compensate for momentary reductions in input power to the system. During steady state operation, the electrical power from the primary and secondary generators is supplied to a load and any excess power can be placed on an electrical grid. Power from the primary generator is also input to the drive motor and used to charge the battery module 76.
The next paragraph describes the platform characteristics/functions. I've moved this paragraph up from the sequence in which it is found in the patent application.
- Referring now to FIG. 2, a side view of an exemplary layout of the components for the power generation system 10 is shown. The flywheel 21 is mounted on flywheel support blocks 55. As can also be seen in FIG. 3, the flywheel shaft 22 is supported on bearings 56 that are connected to a mounting surface of the support blocks 55. In the described embodiment, the bearings are one inch saddle bearings with case hardened rollers. The generators 36, 37 (37 not shown in FIG. 2) are set on support platforms 39 on a bottom reference surface 15. The start motors 26 are set on a start motor platform 67 supported by legs 65. The platform 67 aligns the start motor output shaft 49 and centrifugal clutch 29 above the flywheel shaft 22 as can be seen best in FIG. 3. The drive motors 48 and electric clutches 28 are set upon the reference surface 15.
The next few paragraphs describe the electrical control.
- The control module 79 is shown schematically in FIG. 1 as monitoring the output power from the generators 36, 37. The output of the primary generator 36 is also connected to a generator sensor 83. As will be described in more detail with reference to FIG. 4, the generator sensor 83 includes a coil that is in communication with the output of the primary generator. When the generator sensor coil is energized by the generator at its rated power, the generator sensor acts on a drive control contactor 81 to provide a power path between the primary generator and the drive motors 48. When the power path through the drive control contactor 81 is closed, the power from the generator starts the drive motors 48. In addition, the drive control contactor 81 provides a power path from the primary generator to the battery module 76 to a charging circuit 82 that recharges the batteries in the battery module 76.
- Referring now to FIG. 4, an electrical schematic of the power generation system is presented. As already discussed, the control module 79 senses the electrical power generated by the generators 36, 37. In addition, the control module displays the amount of electrical power being generated by the electrical generators on gauges 79 a, 79 b. The control module 76 includes a start switch 80 that is closed to start the system. The start switch energizes a coil 84 a in a battery contactor 84 along a power path 93. When the coil 84 a is energized, a switch 84 c closes. With the switch 84 c closed, the battery contactor 84 is in a condition in which battery power from the battery module 76 can flow through the contactor 84 to the power inverter 77 and step up transformer 78 on the power path 95 a. The power flowing through the power inverter on power path 95 a is monitor by a power control sensor 86. When the power control sensor senses a sufficient amount of power to run the start motors, a coil 91 c in a start control contactor 91 is energized on power path 95 b. The energized coil 91 c actuates switches 91 a, 91 b in the start control contactor 91 to connect the power path 95 a to a power path 95 c to provide power to the start motor 26.
- Once the start motors 26 spin the flywheel (not shown in FIG. 4) and the generators, the generators will begin generating power. Two coils 83 a, 83 b in the generator sensor 83 are energized by the output of the primary generator 36. When the coils 83 a, 83 b are energized, a switch 83 c in the generator sensor closes. When the switch 83 c closes, a coil 84 b in the battery contactor is energized along a power path 92, opening the switch 84 c in the battery contactor to disconnect the power path between the battery module 76 and the start motors 26. The start motors are thus disconnected from power and will lose output shaft speed. Once the shaft speed falls below 2000 RPM, the centrifugal clutches 29 will disengage and the start motors are disconnected from the flywheel. In this manner, if the primary generator is generating rated power, then the battery contactor 84 will prevent the flow of power between the battery module 76 and the start motors are disconnected from the flywheel.
- When the primary generator is generating rated power, the coil 83 b is energized and in turn energizes a coil 81 a along a power path 88. The coil 81 a is part of the drive control contactor 81. When the coil 81 a is energized, another coil 81 c becomes energized which provides power along power path 99 a to the control module 79 to indicate that the primary generator is generating rated power. When the control module 79 receives this signal, the control module powers the electric clutches 28 via power outputs 128 to connect the output shaft of the drive motor 48 to the flywheel. The signal on power path 99 a is branched to a power path 99 b that provides power to the charging circuit 82 that charges that batteries in the battery module 76. In addition, when the coil 81 a is energized, switches 81 b, 81 d in the drive control contactor 81 are closed to connect power from the primary generator 36 to the drive motor along a power path 96. In this manner, when the primary generator is generating rated power, the generator sensor 83 causes power to be supplied to the drive motor and provides a signal to the control module to engage the electric clutches on the drive motors.
- The primary generator 36 and the secondary generator 37 are connected to isolation transformers 85, 87, respectively through which electrical power is supplied to the load (not shown in FIG. 3). The isolation transformers may be, for example, 220 V AC to 220 V AC transformers. The various contactors such as the battery control contactor 84, generator sensor 83, start control contactor 91, and drive control contactor 81 can be implemented in the form of relay boxes containing 24 V DC or 110 V AC relays as appropriate. The contactors may also be implemented with other means such as solid state switches. The contactors may be replaced by control components within the control module that are operated according to a stored control algorithm. The contactors may all be centrally located within the control module 79 or located in proximity to the devices they control.
The next two paragraphs describe the flowchart.
- FIG. 5 is a flowchart outlining a procedure 100 that can be used to operate the power generation system. During power generation system initial start up the start motor is powered with the power from the battery module at 110. This is accomplished by energizing the battery control contactor 84 to allow the flow of power from the power converter 77 to the step up transformer 78 (FIG. 4). The power control sensor 86 connects power from the step up transformer 78 to the start motor 26 when the power level is sufficient to run the start motor. The start motor begins to spin and once the centrifugal clutch 29 is engaged, the start motor spins the flywheel and generator (or generators, if a secondary generator is used) at 120. The flywheel stores kinetic energy from the start motor and drives the generator. The flywheel has a damping effect on variations in motor output shaft speed. At 130 the electrical output of the generator is compared to power required to power the drive motor and as long as the generator is not producing rated power, the generator sensor 83 maintains the battery control contactor 84 in condition to connect power from the battery module 76 to the start motors 26. At 140, once the generator's output power is sufficient to power the drive motor the generator sensor 83 controls the drive control contactor 81 to connect the generator's output to the drive motor 48. It is believed that isolating the generator's electrical output from the drive motor until sufficient voltage is available to operate the drive motor prevents back EMF from being generated and causing electrical interference between the drive motor and generator.
- The output of the drive motor is coupled to the pulleys that drive the flywheel through the electric clutch 28. Initially, the clutch uncouples the rotation of the drive motor's output shaft from the flywheel until the drive motor's speed matches that of the flywheel. The electric clutch 28 is engaged by the control module 79 after a time delay during which time the drive motor gets up to flywheel speed. At 150 once the drive motor is up to speed, the electric clutch is engaged and the drive motor's output shaft is coupled to and drives the flywheel. The start motor is powered down by the generator sensor 83 energizing the battery contactor coil 84 b. The flywheel damps the mechanical effects of the change in motors that are transmitted to the generator. Once the drive motor is driving the flywheel and the start motor is shut down, the system is in a steady state mode at 160 and 170 in which power from the generator is input to the drive motor and generator power is supplied to the load.
Profile: Charles L. Pierce, PhD
Chuck has degrees and background in electrical, mechanical, physics fields, as well as experience in lasers. Considered one of the top laser engineers. Was with Comsat, then moved to C-Com, worked on Star Wars project.
He received his PhD from Bethany University in Thermonuclear Reactors, with a Thesis title: "Waste and Elimination Laser Destruction System", and a patents US5648592 and US5886316A that followed: Method and apparatus for treating waste and for obtaining usable by-product, published March 23, 1999; Original Assignee: Consolidated Fusion Technologies, Inc.
As of July, 2013, Chuck is 59 years old. 
Regen Corp.: Consultant/Managing Director
May 2005 – Present (8 years 4 months)
All Electronics Corp., CEO
June 1975 – Present (38 years 3 months)
Profile: All Electronics Corp.
Tries to stay under the radar.
All Electronics Corp. in Cleveland, OH, USA, is a private company categorized under Electronic Equipment Stores. 
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