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"Oneness" 's Replication of John Bedini's Simplified 'School Girl' Motor and Battery Energizer

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My Bedini SG Replication Variation

12/04 I was in the process of replicating the first school girl motor with the roller blade wheel when I came across this newer SG version. I liked the looks of this circuit better so I figured I'd try it with the smaller wheel with 4 Neodymium magnets. And guess what, it worked!( I actually later tried some radio shack regular round magnets and I couldn't get it to work.) I have to keep the wheel as close as possible to coil for operation, same as seen with regular magnets.

I have 4 Neodymium magnets and every other space I have fishing weights to add to the fly wheel effect. My coil is wound with two 24 AWG wires, and I didn't have the patients to count windings but to give you an idea their wound on a standard solder spool with 1/4" space left on the spool. I meant to measure the coil resistance before wiring it in, but forgot. I will if I take it apart for mods and post the value. I haven't calculated my RPM's yet but my transistor is switching at 185Hz.

My results 12/04

I'm using used 12v 7AH sealed lead acid batteries. I had some bad ones, and the motor did not want to work with it at all when I tried charging them.

I still have yet to condition the batteries in the charger for an extended period of time. My best results I tracked was powering with a normally charged battery at 11.34 V and charging 3 other batteries (5.58v,7.85v,9.21v) for 26 hours and ended with the power battery reading (off) 8.49v and the charging batteries measured (no longer in parallel) 11.06v,11.04v,11.07. So I had a charge gain of 10.53 V from using 2.85v. But as others note, it was just a "surface" type of charge, and would disappear quite fast when I tried using them to run the charger(see update on bottom of page). So it was a bit disappointing, but still very interesting and fun to this point, I just hope John and Peter still continue guiding us to a REAL Bedini motor replication clearly showing the presence of radiant energy.

My experiment with adding a Capacitor to my SG motor:


I first tried this set up without the neon in series with B2. The cap would charge to around 13v and I think (no data) it improved the charge. Last night I tried it with the neon in series with B2. I used a "cold" battery for my test The battery (12v 7ah lead acid) measured 8.4v. Right now I have the motor hooked up to a 3amp 12v power supply(actually 14v) for conditioning my batteries so this is what I used for input power on these tests. So when I started the wheel, the cap started charging and N2 was off until the cap charged to about 65v, then N2 started to glow bright and the cap kept charging until it reached 192v. Then the charge battery started going up 10mv every minute or so. The battery started out reading 8.40v but now reads, 21 hours later, 9.92v. The cap still reads 192v and the transistor is switching at 140Hz. D3 may no longer be necessary because I doubt the neon will allow the cap to charge from B2.

My double coil and circuit Motor:

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Side Shot

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This is two Bedini motor circuits in Parallel with a roller blade wheel with 4 Neodymium with different colored plastic shells. Both Coils are wound with double 24 AWG and one coil is a little fatter then the other. Both are wound on standard solder spools with welding rods in the core and a stainless steel screw through the middle for mounting. I don't have the coils set up yet perfectly so they fight each other a little resulting in lower RPM then my single coil motor. I read the transistors switching at 86Hz with my meter. This easily wants to go into solid state mode, especially if I connect my power battery up first before the charge battery, it starts humming right away and the wheel stays still, then I can connect the charging battery and it stays in solid state with the wheel still. When this is in solid state I measure the transistor switching at 108hz, and if I tune the two resistors separate,I can get it switching even faster. It was fun adjusting the two because you can hear them oscillate out of tune and you can tune them in sync almost like a musical instrument.

I still have more to do in experimenting with adjustments and settings.........

Update: The aluminum base caused a braking action on the wheel, went to wood. I then converted this to a one coil, two rotors (one all north and the other all south. It spun the two rotors for the same input cost). It was a little tricky spin starting both rotors so they would sync with triggering the coil. I didn't load test the batteries, but the extra wheel didn't seem to add anything to the charge, and why would it when rotor seems to be just a mechanical oscillator.I forgot to take a picture of the two wheel set up before taking it a part :(

My COP test

I finally learned that I couldn't "rotate" the charged batteries to the front end to proof the concept to myself (For whatever reason this version of the technology can't utilize the negatively charged battery, alone). These radiantly charged batteries work best with xformers,resistors, and bulbs. So to proof to myself the feeling I've had all along, I did a load test (thanks very much to Brett on the monopole list !!) I used the same motor at the top of this page, but with some MODS:

For one I got rid of the neo's (caused a higher input) and replaced them with ceramic #5's

I had rewound the coil as a byfylar twist and it's about half the size of the original coil(4ohms)

I used a Mj3281D transistor and a 1"x3" copper buss bar for the output buss.

The charge battery used was a 12v 7.5Ah Lead acid (used,pulled from a recycling bin at a power company)

I used a power supply on the input to keep input volts the same for the sake of calculating

First I adjusted the trigger resistance so I had the lowest input with the fastest rotor speed.

Then I collected the data:

Input: 12.09V X 17mA = 0.205Watts X 3600 sec (one hour charge time)= 738 Joules

I charged the battery for one hour, then loaded it with a 50watt 10ohm resistor and timed it till it got to a predetermined voltage.I repeated this 7 times, but had to discard two results because of double spikes caused invalid results on them, so I re tuned the machine back to what it was and continued the test. (Also, I didn't count the first one because it was more of a base line to start with the predetermined stop voltage)

1. (established stop voltage)
2. 1min 26sec @1.45A
3. 1min 28sec @1.45A
4. 1min 30sec @1.45A
5. (double spike,wrong operation. results deleted)
6. (double spike,wrong operation. results deleted)
7. 1min 44sec @1.45A
8. 1min 42sec @1.45A
(can you see the conditioning trend?)

Output: 94sec(avg)X 17.951watts(12.38V(avrg)X 1.45A)= 1687.394 Joules!!

COP Calc: Output(1687.394) divided by input (738) = COP of 2.28

Please note that this doesn't take into account the spinning rotor or circuit losses!

Conclusion 04/29/06

What have I learned? Well I learned there are two energies involved with this motor, one positive and one negative(radiant). I've learned that even tho neo's will work, they cause the motor input to be higher then you want. I've learned that you can't take the charged battery and put it on the front end and expect to use the negative charge of the battery to run the SG efficiently, the radiantly charged battery either needs to be converted with a DC-DC converter before the SG or the negative output of the sg needs to be converted into a positive one via a pulsed cap to the charging battery. I've learned that if a negatively charged battery sits without being used, the radiant charge will leak out. I've learned way more in other "traditional" things also, but more then I have time to list here. If you are serious about learning more about this technology, I strongly,strongly recommend Bearden's "Energy from the vacuum". It is worth it's weight in gold! I wish I got it much much sooner then I did! Lots of stuff in that book you won't find on web sites.

One final Note: Beware of the SG yahoo group, it's not what it was once, and is run by people who can't prove that they are who they say they are, or can prove that they have built anything whats so ever(no picture evidence or data evidence). I've watched them run the group around in circles, chasing their tails, and planting doubts whenever they have the chance. They've also managed to run John off from helping that group anymore too. I'm not at all surprised, because this technology IS real and it threatens the system of control that is run by the few. Here is a little background to what's been going on with the SG group:

Ricks letter to the SG group(SG moderator erased it from that group):

I would like to thank John Bedini for making this information public, and spending the time to help those really interested in learning this technology. I would also like to thank Sterling for starting this (to bad he couldn't stick with it). And I would also like to Thank Rick (the monopole moderator) for all his hard work on these groups, his experimenting, his sharing, and his patience(I know I've pissed him off a time or two).

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