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Exp. 10.3 Wires, Connections and Amps
Experiment 10.3 from Sterling D. Allan's Replication of John Bedini's "School Girl Radiant Energy Circuit and Motor"
- Purpose
- To determine the influence of wires and connections on the amps input / output. I changed number of wires, thicknesses of wires on both the input and output ends to see what it would do to the input/output amps.
- Summary of Finds
- There is a definite and strong relationship between the amperage and the wires. Longer wires result in lower amps. The surprise is that thinner wires increase the amperage, while thicker wires decrease it. Changing wires on the input battery side effects both the input amperage as well as the output amperage, nearly to the same proportion. However, changing wires on the output end effects the output amperage, but has hardly any influence on the input amperage.
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Experimental Set-up
I have one 6V 4.2Ah/20h battery on input with 7 batteries on output in parallel being charged. There was no trickle charger on the input battery during this experiment, and I had let the system run for about three hours after disconnecting the trickle charger to let things equilibrate. So the only changes were coming from the gradual discharge of the input battery and the even more gradual charge of the 7 output batteries. The resistance was 56 ohms (measured, from two hard resistors), and the wheel was spinning at 138.7 rpm with no audible or measurable changes during the experiment.
Data
Set One: Existing Wires
Nov. 11, 2004; commencing 11:11 am
Unless specified, "wires" refers to an assemblage of jumper cables between 12 and 18 inches and between 14 gauge and 30 gauge.
As the experiment progresses, more care is taken to identify length and gauge. While this experiment is not highly accurate it does show some effects that call for a more accurate test to be run.
As long as a meter is hooked up, there are at least two wires involved from each meter. The meter wires are approximately 10 gauge (my guess).
When I give two readings for amps, the first is the primary readout, the second is what the meter is flashing to. This is followed by a percentage of how often the second numbers shows up.
REF = reference point.
| REF | INPUT WIRES | OUTPUT WIRES | AMPS IN | AMPS OUT |
| 1 | 2 wires from meter | 4 wires (2 of ~30 gauge) | 0.43 / 0.44-40% | 0.08 / 0.07-10% |
| 2 | no wires | 4 wires (as ref 1) | -- | 0.08 |
| 3 | 3 wires | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.44 / 0.43-40% | 0.08 / 0.07-40% |
| 4 | 4 wires (hooked to copper of another clip on terminal) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.37 / 0.36-40% | 0.05 |
| 5 | 4 wires (hooked direct to lead of terminal) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.40 / 0.39 | 0.06 |
| 6 | 5 wires | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.40 / 0.41 | 0.06 / 0.07 |
| 7 | 4 wires (as ref 5) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.42-50% | 0.07 |
| 8 | 5 wires (as ref 6) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.42 / 0.41-30% | 0.07 |
| 9 | 4 wires (as ref 5) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.40 | 0.07 / 0.06-20% |
| 10 | (~minute later) 4 wires (as ref 5) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.42-50% | 0.07 / 0.06-5% |
| 11 | 7 wires | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.38 / 0.37 | 0.06 / 0.05-5% |
| 12 | (~minute later) 7 wires | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.38 / 0.39-50% | 0.06 |
| 13 | 6 wires (36" ~14 gauge; replacing 2 shorter, smaller wire (gauge)) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.08 / 0.07-40% |
| 14 | ~minute later; same as ref 13 | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.06 / 0.07-50% |
| 15 | 8 wires, including 36" | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.39 / 0.40-50% | 0.06 |
| 16 | same as ref 15, but reinforced each wire clip connection | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.40 / 0.39-40% | 0.06 |
| 17 | 9 wires | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.39 / 0.40-50% | 0.06 |
| 18 | 3 wires (1 14 gauge-solid) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.43 / 0.42-40% | 0.07 |
| 19 | 3 wires (two wires in parallel for one) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.43 / 0.42-40% | 0.07 |
| 20 | 3 wires | 3 wires (four wires in parallel for one) | 0.43 / 0.42-40% | 0.07 |
| 21 | 3 wires | 3 wires (1 is 36" ~14g) | 0.42 / 0.41-40% | 0.07 |
| 22 | 3 wires, one is ~25 gauge | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.42 / 0.43-10% | 0.07 |
| 23 | 3 wires, one is heavier wire (gauge) | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.40-30% | 0.07 / 0.06-20% |
| 24 | 3 wires, repeat of ref 22 | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.42-50% | 0.07 |
| 25 | 3 wires, repeat of ref 23 | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.40 / 0.41-50% | 0.07 / 0.06-50% |
| 26 | 3 wires, repeat of ref 22 | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.42-80% | 0.07 |
| 27 | 3 wires, repeat of ref 23 | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.40 / 0.41-40% | 0.06 / 0.07-50% |
| 28 | 3 wires, repeat of ref 22 | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.42-50% | 0.07 |
| 29 | 3 wires one is thin | 4 wires (as ref 1) | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.07 |
| 30 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 3 wires | 0.41 | 0.07 |
| 31 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 2 wires | 0.42 | 0.07 |
| 32 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 2 wires (few seconds later) | 0.41 | 0.07 |
| 33 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 2 wires (minute later) | 0.41 / 0.40-10% | 0.07 |
| 34 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 3 wires | no reading | 0.07 / 0.06 (flash) |
| 35 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 3 wires (few seconds later) | 0.41 / 0.40-10% | 0.07 |
| 36 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires | no reading | 0.07 / 0.06 (flash) |
| 37 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires (few seconds later) | 0.41 / 0.40-10% | 0.07 |
| 38 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 5 wires | no reading | 0.07 / 0.06 (flash) |
| 39 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 5 wires (few seconds later) | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.07 |
| 40 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 5 wires | 0.41 / 0.40-10% | 0.07 / 0.06-5% |
| 41 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 6 wires, including 36" one | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.07 / 0.06-10% |
| 42 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 6 wires, ref 41 (minute later) | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.07 / 0.06-20% |
| 43 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 9 wires | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.06 / 0.07-10% |
| 44 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires, including 36" | 0.44 / 0.43-40% | 0.07 / 0.06-5% |
| 45 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 5 wires, same length as ref 44 | 0.41 / 0.40-50% | 0.07 / 0.06-30% |
| 46 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires, larger wire (gauge) | 0.40 / 0.41-30% | 0.06 / 0.07-50% |
| 47 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires, smaller wire (gauge) | 0.41 / 0.40-40% | 0.07 / 0.06-30% |
| 48 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires, repeat 46 | 0.40 / 0.41 | 0.07 / 0.06-50% |
| 49 | 3 wires (as ref 29) | 4 wires, repeat 47 | 0.40 / 0.41-50% | 0.07 / 0.06-50% |
| 50 | 3 wires, larger wire (gauge) | 4 wires (as ref 49) | 0.40 / 0.39 | 0.06 |
| 51 | 3 wires, smaller wire (gauge) | 4 wires (as ref 49) | 0.40 / 0.41 | 0.07 / 0.06-30% |
| 52 | 3 wires (as ref 51) | 5 wires, two thinner gauge | 0.40 / 0.41-30% | no reading |
| 53 | 3 wires (as ref 51) | 5 wires (minute later) | 0.40 / 0.39-10% | 0.06 / 0.07-20% |
| 54 | 3 wires (as ref 51) | 5 wires, two of thicker gauge | 0.40 / 0.39-10% | 0.06 |
Notes
- Lowest reading of entire experiment came in test #4 when the clip was hooked to the copper of another clip on the terminal. There was a 0.03 amp change when connected directly to the lead terminal instead.
- Between tests #5 and #8, it seemed as though just the act of changing wires was upping the current. Not sure what that was about. Would need to replicate.
- In #13 we see increased current resulting from eliminating a connection.
- Ref 13 did not change after a minute, but remained stable at initial reading.
- In Ref 16, reinforcing each connection with a second wire alligator clip did not make any measured difference in the current flow.
- Ref 19 is using same solid 14 gauge as in ref. 18. I wonder if diameter is the issue. The 14-guage solid copper wire (stripped from a 3x insulated set for commercial wiring) is much smaller than the 20 gauge wire made of strands.
- In ref 19 and 20, multiple wires in parallel did not seem to make any difference in current.
- In ref 21, a longer wire made a very large difference, nearly .02 amps just by adding two feet.
- In ref 22 - 28, I kept repeating to make sure of what I was seeing: a much smaller gauge wire resulted in higher current.
- In ref 28, I moved the connection all over, from very solid to just one pin-point of connection, and it did not budge the amp reading, no matter what I did, so long as I maintained contact.
- The drop down in 31 - 33 is probably insignificant, and probably just a hiccough in the system. However, in 34-35, 36-37, 38-40 an adjustment of the reading in the first few seconds was observed as well.
Set Two: Specific Wires
After running the above test, I decided it would be good to be more precise in the gauge and length of wire being used, so I got some wire from the hardware store and cut it into 4', 3', 2' and 1' foot lengths, labeling each.
After I get some sleep, I'll run that experiment to see if I can't get some more definitive and repeatable results.
See also
- Experiments and Data from Bedini SG by Sterling Allan
- Sterling D. Allan's Replication
- Bedini "School Girl" (Simplified) Project
- Replications by Others
- Bedini SG egroup (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bedini_SG)
