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Data from Sterling D. Allan's Replication of John Bedini's Simplified 'School Girl' Motor and Battery Energizer

Table of contents
1 Synopsis
2 Sterling's Data

1 Note about Trickle Charger
2 See also

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Synopsis

I do not believe that I ever achieved a situation in which I was harnessing unseen energy external to the system. All my data support an internal charge-discharge scenario, with a net loss due to system inefficiencies.

I did observe a number of very fascinating phenomena. Though driven by an expectation for success that ended up not being met, I will say that the experience was worth while. The quest was enjoyable, though very frustrating as well.

Batteries are a very tricking thing to work with.

You need to take into consideration the charge/discharge curve characteristics.

A discharged battery voltage will rise very rapidly with very little loss of voltage from a fully-charged battery.

-- Sterling D. Allan (Jan. 21, 2007)

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Sterling's Data

  • SDA Exp. 21: Thought I had it, but not yet - Solid state charge works better than rotational charge at the same charging current. For the spinning rotor scenario, I implemented most of John Bedini's recent suggestions. Neither test reveals over unity, though the solid state test looked at first like it was going to. 17 pp of data posted. (Dec. 29 - Jan. 3)
  • Exp. 20.1: Like Balancing an Egg on End - reports a phenomenon in which a quasi-steady balance point is attained between solid state resonance and the first rotation speed. At that point, the meter jumps all over the place. (Dec. 29)
  • SDA Exp. 19: New Coil and Wheel - Changed wheel from 22" diam 16 magnets to 16.5" diam 24 magnets. Changed coil from ~425 turns to ~1290 turns. New wheel spins faster on old coil, stabilizes more rapidly on new coil. Data compared.
  • Exp. 15: Deceleration Data - to calculate rough estimate of energy required to keep wheel rotating. Nov. 29
  • Exp. 14: Recharing the batteries. Individually supercharged each of the batteries again. Nov. 29 - Dec. 3, 2004.
    • Exp. 14.2 - Compares Steady State Discharge with Average Voltage Drop During Continuous Rotation of Conditioned Batteries. Dec. 3-10.
  • Exp13: Continuous Rotation of Conditioned Batteries - Rotating ten 6V batteries connected 2x 6v into five quasi 12-Vs, taking turns on input side. Running from Nov. 22 to 28, 2004, the average voltage level of the entire set gradually dropped from 6.598 to 6.413.
  • Experiment 10 -- Super-Charging all batteries - in order to begin the rotation scenario (taking turns moving one from back side to front side). Batteries are in various stages of exposure to Bedini circuit. Four have been supercharged previously.
    • Exp.10.2 Ohms v Amps v RPM and Multiple Stable Rotation Curves - Sterling's Bedini SG data shows several regions in which two stable rotation speeds are obtained at the same resistance in the Bedini SG circuit. Looking for ideal resistance for running the motor-energizer.
    • Exp.10.4 Different Standing Discharge Rates - Batteries longest on the Bedini Circuit discharged significantly more slowly at first, but then after a day discharged to a lower voltage than those batteries that are more recent to the circuit and lower than one that was damaged early on, and dropped rapidly at first.
  • Experiment 9 -- Charging with "Zero Current" - Resistor set to 20.8k ohms where the input current is 0.00_ amps, and the output current is theoretically zero as determined by extrapolation of a linear curve drawn from data taken at 0.035, 0.025, 0.015, and 0.005 amps output. Results show no change in battery. (Oct. 29 through Nov. 3, 2004)
  • Experiment 8 -- Hitting all batteries with a calibrated discharge device to characterize their state of charge - Using West Mountain Radio Computerized Battery Analyzer (CBA) from PowerWerx.com. (Oct. 26, 2004)
    • Batteries 2 and 7 load test compared - Battery 7 is factory new, while Battery has been all over the Bedini circuit (input, output many times, series, parallel, supercharged, solid state). Very unusual graph emerges of battery 2's performance next to battery 7. Bedini-SG-conditioned Battery 2 holds its charge better than factory-new battery 7.
    • Batteries 2 and 5 load test compared - Battery 5 started later, and was only "solid state" (no moving parts) charged, including the "no current" charge. Battery 2 held its charge better than Battery 5, possibly because it has spent more time being conditioned in the Bedini circuit; though I expect that the "no current" charge will prove to be more robust all other things held the same.


  • Experiment 7 -- Charging output batteries with 0 current, only radiant energy - Based on data collected in Exp. 6, which showed that output battery amperage versus ohms resistance forms a linear graph between 2k and 10k ohms where it goes to zero, while input amps creates an asmyptotic curve. Resistance for test set at 17.49 ohms. Output battery charge increased slightly and held firm, while control batteries dropped. (Oct. 24, 25, 2004)
  • Experiment 3 -- 12-V tractor batteries -- I blew three transistors when trying to hook up this circuit. Melted the plastic off one of my wires. Peter says I need more wraps on my coil to have more inductance to match the impedance of the larger battery. (Oct. 14, 15, 2004)
  • Deceleration of wheel - data collected, tabulation pending. To approximate the resistances of the wheel rotation. Did decelartion in Exp. 1 and Exp __.
  • Experiment 0 -- RPMs v Amps - first data I collected; shows a linear relationship between rpm and maps. Double speed of rotor = double amps being drawn from battery (note that this worked because the battery being used was weak enough to not sustain its natural rpm). (Oct. 9, 2004)
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Note about Trickle Charger

Nov. 20, 2004

I'm noticing a high degree of stability, reproducibility, and predictability in using the IntelTender Model 150-6 from DigiKey with my 6v Panasonic (LC-R064R2P) 4.2Ah input batteries.

By keeping the trickle charger on, the input voltage is highly stable, making for more rigorous science because that is one less variable in the mix.

As I'm supercharging my batteries one at a time (recommended, rather than in sets, because of the varying characteristics of individual batteries), I see the same input voltage per given voltage of the output battery. Off the top of my head, without actually running the numbers, I would estimate that it is +/- 0.005 volts consistent. It is very good.

The only caveat to this is that between batteries, when the circuit is disconnected, the input batteries, still on trickle, will jump up in voltage, so when re-connected to the circuit, it will take 15-30 minutes for them to equilibrate back to a consistent level.

Another consistency that arises in this set-up is input/output current. It, also, is a function of input voltage level and output voltage level, other factors (resistance, etc.) being the same.

I've seen it reproduced over and over as I'm supercharging one battery after another using the same parameters.

Sterling


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See also


- Return to School Girl Radiant Energy Circuit and Motor
- Other Directory Listings
- Return to PESWiki main page

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