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'Comments by M. Charley about an earlier circuit drawing posted based on his description in attempt to clarify his instructions for the Directory:SEBCAR.'

Previous Circuit Drawing

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Questions to M. Charley

Earlier in the day, Jan. 18, 2005

Hi Pakis,

Thanks for doing the translation. If the diagram you drew was translated as written by MCharley, then we are in agreement as to some of the ambiguities in the written description.

Here are my comments:

1) The transistor emitter needs to have a connection, probably to the supply negative otherwise the coil won't do anything because it is essentially not connected to the circuit

2) The supply voltage divider that feeds the trigger coil doesn't look like it does anything except provide a constant voltage, which won't do anything in the world of coils

3) Be careful of the cap discharge switch on the supply, make sure you have the supply battery disconnected from the circuit before you discharge. If the battery is connected, you will short out the battery as well as the caps.

The main confusion is in the coil trigger & oscillation part of the circuit. Maybe MCharley can better describe that part to clear up the confusion.

Jim Siwek

[Jan. 18, 2005]

Looks like his voltage divider (or current multiplier) is a "Cascaded Villard doubler circuit" for more info on it check here


[Jan.18, 2005]

Circuit Comments from M. Charley

comments sent to the sebcar and bedini_sg yahoogroups

Sebcar Circuit (Jan. 18)THanks Pakis-ch for the circuit design drawing. To help clear up some confusing, here are changes to circuit. The NPN transistor emmitter goes to the negative of Battery bank capacitor circuit. The negative supply line coming from the voltage multiplier needs to go to battery bank capacitor circuit not the CCC circuit-If left where it is to the capacitor multiplier circuit, the multiplier capacitor will not charge to levels needed for circuit to function. It will only bleed\discharge itself to second battery charge level. At this point and time the circuit seems to be up to standards for SEBCAR design. Will need to re-look once changes have been made. Per prior e-mail to you, I was unable to provide circuit design since I do not have software to draw and submit information. As I have state before the circuits within the complete "Sebcar" design were chosen for their simplicity, access to available parts and quick assembly of SEBCAR unit. Design component substitutions have also been mentioned in the SEBCAR build section at The Charley Charging Circuit is a accomplished design and prototype used by me previously to the SEBCAR unit and is used to effectively charge batteries.

SEBCAR circuit design (Jan. 18)Submitted design changes to version by Pakis-ch previously. In addition the postive output from the multiplier to CCC+ needs to be omited.Thanks. MC

SEBCAR- Capacitors and inductors circuit (Jan. 18)In addition to previous mentioned changes. The capacitors and inductors circuit for the second charging battery needs to be added to diagram. The positive and negative input for the CCC circuit needs to attach to the positve and negative of main source battery and battery capacitor bank. Output of the CCC circuit needs to have its own out terminals for second battery charging. All these circuits are needed for the SEBCAR to function as design. The second battery output is for charging secondary battery and also to function as a partial use (of CCC circuit) reserve capacitor bank for the main battery source when its self-recharging.

Re: My circuit for SEBCAR - more explanation (Jan. 18)Thank your Mr. Paschalis for interpreting the schematic drawing of the SEBCAR design. As drawn there are mistakes. I have sent posting replys to you at the Sebcar group indicating the corrections to be made. The reason I made a written description of how to build the SEBCAR is to make it as detailed as possible to what part\parts to use. How to use those parts. Circuits within the complete circuit were broken down to understandable levels. Each circuit build was describe, how to test that circuit before proceeding, and where that circuit should adjoin other mention circuits. The complete description of how to build the Sebcar is required in order to correctly assemble a completed circuit that are dependant on each other to reach that point\place of over unity that I have already stated.Changes to be made: Emitter from the NPN transistor will go to battery ground. The positive and negative wires going to the capacitor inductor charging circuit need to be removed and relocated. The positive of the capacitor inductor charging circuit goes to the main battery source and battery capacitor bank junction joint. The negative of the capacitor inductor charging ciruit goes to the negative of the main battery and battery capacitor bank negative. The capacitor inductor circuit is as viable and is a required part of the whole circuit. The Sebcar circuit build description is for two battery system. The main source battery and the second charging battery. The SEBCAR circuit can be made into a one battery self recharging system. In order for the one battery system to work, the capacitor inductor battery charging circuit needs to be place between the multiplier capacitor bank and the main battery\battery capacitor banks junction. The Sebcar can be built with two capacitor inductor charging circuits place at previous described points and be use for either the two or single battery system. The circuit will be more efficient that way. Since I do not have access to software to draw the circuit, I do appreciate your help. Will look forward to new design redraw in its entirety.

Continuation of Sebcar design changes (Jan. 18)The Sebcar build as described is for the two battery charging. The capacitor inductor charging circuit is as viable a part of the system as are the other circuits. The capacitor inductor charging circuit needs to be adde to the circuit schematic. The Sebcar can be used as a one battery system where it recharges itself to a higher voltage and amp levels. To do this, the capacitor inductor charging circuit has to be place between the multiplier capacitor bank and the main battery and battery capacitor bank in order for the one battery self charger to work. The Sebcar can just be built with two of the capacitor inductor charging circuits and be used for both a single and double battery charging and recharging system. Thanks again for your help in the schematic drawing.MCharley

Q. Re: OUTPP tuning for OU - lot more information (Jan. 18)Multimeter is used to keep it simple. Easy access for all. I did not use current reading indicator. On can be used, they will function the same. Certainly voltage and current readings are can be read via their testing devices. I chose the DC multimeter for easy access and use. The question you refer to as rapid drop in voltage goes as follows: To understand this one needs know the type of main battery D-cell batterys I use. They as mention are commercially used, of no further use to commercial business and are deemed as throw aways. In otherwards. These batteries are useless for any use. I then place these batteries in series to obtain the voltage levels needed for the circuit. Each battery within the series is tested to see the voltage levels. One battery may read 1.23 volts out of the series. Placed in the series it will read .45 volts. Another battery will read 1.35 volts and place in series will read a NEGATIVE -7.08 volts. This battery is dead, period- I throw it away.Back to your question. The series batteries no load voltage will read at 12.35 volts. When these series batteries are place on the Sebcar circuit with the pot place to center of the pot-the voltage CIRCUIT LOAD BATTERY voltage will now drop to 9.25 volts. In finding the "OUTPP"-turning the pot all the way to the right past the sqeulching point into the VOLTAGE DROP POINT, this 9.25 voltage will drop even further, either in increments from 9.25 volts to 7.00 volt down to full battery amp discharge voltage levels of 4.35 volts. DC multimeter will show this. Amp indicator will also show this. Because of the previous conditon of these batteries, these voltage readings will constantly appear in the beginning. IF YOU ARE USING NEWLY CHARGED MAIN BATTERY SOURCE or a healthy used battery, your voltage readings will differ. HOW? The voltage of a healthy battery will remain at voltage level- or will drop voltage anywhere from .02 to 1 volt. Maybe even 3 to 5 volts.The Circuit does not have access to outside charging source. example:Wall warts. A charging source that will continuely replenish the battery charge from an outside source. The Sebcar is a self contain, self recharging and charging battery system. In other words, Any circuit built- still functions within that circuit voltage design.The Sebcar circuit currrently is designed for 12 volt use, changes to components can make it 24, 48 or higher, even lower voltages. Sebcar is universal in that aspect. Will further elaborate on The system effectively extensively will recharge multiple second batteries and recharge main source battery to SYSTEM LEVELS. The main battery source will remain always at battery full saturation state minus the circuit load. It is evident when a second battey is place on circuit as a charging load. The battery voltage readings will drop to slightly than higher charging battery volts. As the charging battery charges, both the main and charge batteries increase in voltage levels and AMP LEVELS. (IF YOU WERE to place a main battery source- charging a second battery source using a inverter, resistor, diode, light bulb- the main source battery will disipate its amp charge levels in charging the battery only if the charging battery amp level is below the original. Once that happens. THE CIRCUIT IS DEAD). The Sebcar will not do that. This is where the one exception rule comes in mentioned in the Sebcar build section. The circuit will allow a lower amp voltage level battery to charge a higher amp voltage level battery (same 12 volt battery types)until the two reverse roles to appropiate places voltage amp discharge roles.MCharley

Re: SEBCAR- Capacitors and inductors circuit (Jan. 18)The capacitor inductor charging circuit also known as the "CCC" Charly charging circuit is a essential part of the Sebcar system. IF you've replicated this part of the system I can tell you how to test it. Place a known battery voltage source to inputs of the circuit.Wait up to 20 second for system to charge. Place a load on the output of the circuit. You will notice the load will function. When the battery is removed the load will continue to function up until the capacitor charge levels are discharged. The circuit simply stores abundant supply of voltage\amp charge levels constantly supplied it from the main battery, battery capacitor bank via the capacitor multiplier circuit. The relation of caps to inductors produce a constant forward rush of current to charging circuit. The more caps and inductors use the increase of this effect. The final testing of this circuit and its gainful use is to place a Sebcar circuit- with a main battery reading level of nine volts or less-tune circuit and stabilized to previous mentioned "OUTPP" point. Place a different type of load to the battery charging circuit, like a 12 volt 0.20amp rated PCU fan and see what happen. You will see the fan will run at function levels and the nine volt battery will raise in voltage and amps. Will a nine volt battery charge a 12 volt battery? Yes, the circuit will do that. Keep in mind the difference in amp rating levels of two seperate batteries. The small nine volt battery low amp hour will charge a larger 12 volt amp battery. (Batteries have to be similar). The circuit will as in another example take a standard akaline 9 volt battery as battery source and it will charge to the higher 12.0 volt Ni-cad battery. Charge is limited by the 9 volt battery, but it will charge at the 12 volt levls.MCharley

Q. Re: OUTPP tuning for OU (Jan. 18)The pot resistor adjustment (as in other circuit designs)is placed and use to adjust the circuit to correct levels for that particular circuit to work. The pot in this instance is used to control the "TESLA" affect of the oscillating coils. As the main, primary coil is pulsed the secondary coil reacts to primary pulse with a high voltage high amp charge pulse of its own. This resonating of the circuit repeats in this fashion repeadily. The increased pulsing of secondary coil has to go somewhere. If the secondary coils were closed loop the coil would short. The reason the pot will get hot in some cases is all this energy is returning from second coil via base of transitor to battery ground. Poorly made pots will smoke, make sounds, and even blow out resistors and pots. The Sebcar complete design has captured the "OUTPP" of the Tesla effect of the coil. Once the adjustable pot is tuned correctly and used effectively repeateadly, a measurement of the pot resistence can be done to see at what ohm level is at. Now in a perfect world where one can obtain a resister that matches the pot resistence ohm reading, I could go and grap one off the shelf and use it. If it happens your resistence readings matches a known available resistence value, WONDERFUL, use it obchieve repeated "OUTPP" insured tuning levels. Certainly the oscillating circuit can be increased or decreased and the coil wire lengths and coil ohm levels can be adjusted to the correct "OUTPP" levels to a degree that a known nonadjustable resistor level can be used. Or even to the degree that the use of resistors can be eliminated from the circuit. The third wire output further multiplies the voltage amp discharge levels of the second coil depending on the resistence ohm level of the coil. The third coil or multiple charge output coils could possible be referenced to Tesla amplifier.MCharley

Re: SEBCAR- Capacitors and inductors circuit theoretically,the Sebcar circuit will and can be battery free (Jan. 18)The Sebcar circuit will and can be battery free. Introduce the use of the now available super capacitors as per design specs. Place source battery to inputs to sustain system at charge levels. Tune to "OUTPP" levels and remove battery. The Sebcar circuit will keep the system running per the full charges of SUPER CAPACITORS. Currently the Super Capacitor industry from what I understand does not have a way to keep there Super Capacitors self contained and viable for their specified use without constantly introducing outside current charging. The Sebcar circuit introduced to this the circuit will either eliminate or totally reduce outside constant current charging source and become self contained. Currently this is just a theory, but as I stated already this circuitry is universal in its application. It is possible to place miniturized versions or large versions of SEBCAR circuitry to help maintain the battery and capacitor power systems at optimum levels to totally eliminate or decrease the of need constant fed AC\DC sources. Example: Place circuit in conjunction with battery supply source of cell phones and see how long the battery will go with out the need for recharging. Place circuit in conjunction with AC|DC power hungry machinary and see how those power hungry machinary will reduce its need for outside sources. The circuitry as described is multiple facitide and functional in its uses to aide, replacing or improving circuit designs in all aspects of industry. Lets not forget that there is a use for all inventions. The AC will always remain useful. The DC will always remain useful. Ways to improve the uses of both of this sources are alway open to improvement.MCharley

Re: Sebcar Circuit (Jan. 18)The 22 ohm resister is attached to negative of battery and battery capacitor junction. It then joins the 330 ohm resister, which then goes to the battery and battery capactor bank positive junction. The junction of the two resistor points is the beginning of coil that runs back to base of transistor. Per your capacitor question it is desirable to increase the uf levels. The more uf increased amounts of all capacitors will allow more energey storage and a better use of that stored energy. The higher uf amounts will increase the time of full saturation amounts of the capacitors, but we are only talking a several seconds. When tuned to the "OUTPP" the charge will be quick. All the circuits are dependent on each other. Capacitors tremendously improve circuit to beyond functional levels.MCharley

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