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EXPERIMENT 6 -- OHMS VERSUS AMPS

This is Page 2 of the Experiment 6 report. See Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp6.

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'Graphs pertaining to data from Sterling D. Allan's Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp6 on his first Replication of John Bedini's "Directory:Bedini SG"'

Identification : Performed by Sterling D. Allan, Executive Director, PES Network Inc, Oct. 25, 2005, Ephraim, UT USA.

Purpose : To profile the relationship of ohms resistance to amps input and output in the Bedini SG, using 6V Panasonic Sealed 4.2 Ah/20 h.

: See: Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data for index of experiments performed on these batteries using the same device on eight identical (new from manufacturer) batteries.

Primary Discovery: "Zero Current" Charge State : In the process of running this experiment, I discovered that there seems to be a region in which output current goes to zero, yet battery charging proceeds. Peter Lindemann says that the higher the frequency the better. Tesla purportely said that "current is wasted energy." So we may have discovered a region in which both ideals are met: high frequency, no current. I have not yet verified that the current is indeed zero. I am only extrapolating based on a graph plotted that appears to go to zero. That curve, incidentally, has two shapes. One is linear and goes to zero, and the other is analogous to the input current curve and approaches but never reaches zero.

Highlights

(6V Panasonic Sealed 4.2 Ah/20 h batteries)

Increased ohms give decreased amps output.

Increased ohms give increased frequency of vibration of the coil.

Decreased ohms gives increased rpms in the range where rotation is created

Solid state (no rotation) resonance begins around 2k ohms.

Audible resonance occurs between the range of 2.2k ohms and 5k ohms.

A "no output current" state begins at around 11.5k ohms.

Reduction of the input voltage shifts the curves to the left.

The shape of the output current curve has two forms. One extrapolates linearly to zero, the other bends analogously to the input curve, approaching asymptotically but not reaching zero.

The latter curve is obtained by introducing a high resistance between the negative of the output batteries and the positive of the input batteries prior to connecting the circuit.

Follow-up

: Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp9 Zero Current Charge - Extrapolating to a point where output current goes to zero, with high frequency pulsing of the circuit, the expected results were to see super robust batteries. Instead, the load test showed no change. Perhaps different load types respond differently?

Experimental Set-up

Batteries

Panasonic-BSG 4.2Ah/20h sealed lead acid batteries' part number LC-R064R2P from Digikey.com.

Data Sheet | photo | catalogue

Circuit

As described Directory:Bedini SG:Schematic.

Set-up

Battery #8 on input. Batteries #4,5,6 on output (receiving charge). Resistor on circuit being modified. Current from input and output batteries being measured with multimeter.

Results

Graph Overviews

Image:SDA Bedini SG 0-1kOhms v Amps 041018 148.gif

0 - 1000 Ohms (x) versus amps (y), plotted on non-logarithmic paper.

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0 - 1000 Ohms (x, logarithmic) versus amps (y,left) and rpm (y,right), plotted on semi-logarithmic paper.

Image:SDA Bedini SG solid state Ohms v MusicScale 041023 crop 100.gif

2.3k - 5k Ohms (x, logarithmic) versus not pitch, plotted on semi-logarithmic paper (note frequency is logarithmic as well.

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2k - 20k Ohms (x, logarithmic) versus amps (y), plotted on semi-logarithmic paper.

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2k - 20k Ohms (x, logarithmic) versus amps (y), plotted on semi-logarithmic paper, later, at lower voltage. Noticed two different amperages that give 0.01 amps.

0 - 1000 Ohms Versus Amps and RPM

Image:SDA Bedini SG Ohms v Amps v RPM 041018 600.gif

Amps input decrease asymptotically as ohms increase.

RPM increase as ohms decrease. Curve needs more careful data collection and points to determine its exact shape. May have harmonic undulations, may be linear.

At around 70 ohms, the frictional resistances of the wheel seem to over-ride what would otherwise be further increases in speed.

Ohms to Audible Frequency is a linear relationship

Image:SDA Bedini SG solid state Ohms v MusicScale 041023 crop 300.gif

2.3k - 5k Ohms (x, logarithmic) versus not pitch, plotted on semi-logarithmic paper (note frequency is logarithmic as well.

2k to 20k Ohms versus Amps

Two graphs. At the time these were plotted, I was thinking that the point in which 0.0x turned to the next number on the meter, e.g. 0.02 flashing about 50% to 0.01, represented 0.019. However, it is actually the 0.0x5 spot, above which is rounded up, and below which is rounded down. This point was sought as the most accurate point to plot. The variable resistor was adjusted until the toggle point was reached.

So in the graphs below, 0.010 amps is actually, 0.005, etc.

6.45 Volts input
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Linear Output Goes to Zero

Note that an extrapolation of the output current line goes to zero at around 11.5k Ohms, which would infer that any charging taking place from input derived from resistances above that would result in a "no current" charge, implicating radiant energy. Such a charge state has been measured, but the "no current" part has not been verified with sufficiently sensitive instruments.

6.27 Volts input
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Reduction of the input voltage shifts the curves to the left (expected).

A smaller size of Batteries would probably also shift the curve to the left?

Curve changes shape

The shape of the output current curve has two forms. One extrapolates linearly to zero, the other bends analogously to the input curve, approaching asymptotically but not reaching zero.

In the latter curve, point B is obtained by introducing a high resistance between the negative of the output batteries and the positive of the input batteries prior to connecting the circuit. This was repeated several times to verify the effect, Point A was obtained four times, and point B was obtained twice, using the same procedure for each. (This was discovered by accidentally having the circuit meter set on resistance rather than amps. The meter has a resistance of 4.56 k ohms. [Good thing there wasn't any sizeable current flowing, it could have burned up the meter.])

See also

Directory:Bedini SG:Materials:Resistor - From 47 ohms to 20k ohms, the "volume/speed control" for this device, from changing rate of rotation to the frequency of resonance in solid state (no rotation) mode, including an audible frequency range.

Image:Ohms v Amps v RPM SDA Bedini SG Exp10 thumbnail.gif
Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp10.2 Ohms v Amps v RPM Chart - Sterling's Bedini SG data shows several regions in which two stable rotation speeds are obtained at the same resistance in the Bedini SG circuit. Looking for ideal resistance for running the motor-energizer.

Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp9 Zero Current Charge - Extrapolating to a point where output current goes to zero, with high frequency pulsing of the circuit, the expected results were to see super robust batteries. Instead, the load test showed no change. Perhaps different load types respond differently?

Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan:Data:Exp6 - Page one of Experiment 6.

Directory:Bedini SG:Replications:PES:Sterling Allan - main index includes chronology of build, other replications by SDA when built.

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