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Archive of the Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo from April 25-30, 2015 of their 5 kW system demonstration.

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Power Outage Coincided with AuKW Outage?
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I just sent this to Roberto by Skype:

[14:20 GMT] "Hi Roberto, That email I sent ~8 hours ago asks a very important question that needs to be addressed. It points out that the emergency lighting only comes on during power outages and that that power outage to the building coincided with the outage of the AuKW, which is supposed to be independent of mains power. This needs to be addressed, as people are using it as the smoking gun evidence that there is trickery going on."

Dansie had said, for example: "Safety lighting is triggered by power failures in Germany , the USA and even here in the Philippines."

Here is Roberto's reply to my email:

: From: "Verein GAIA | Roberto Reuter"

: To: "Sterling Allan"

: Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 13:36 [GMT]

: Subject: Re: safety lighting

: Dear Sterling,

: The so called "safety light" is the emitted light from the IR diodes of both cameras.

: I attached a link to a pic from the cam - so its maybe more easy to understand..


: P.S: We use a TRENDNET TV-IP310PI

: with best Regards from Roberto

Just now, he explained by Skype that their website is presently "offline - as we move our webspace to a more powerful server )"

I suggested "You might also take a photo of that portion of the ceiling in relation to the demo to show there is no safety light situated there."

He said he would.

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April 30 16:40 GMT update

Here are the two photos Roberto sent, with the outage photo superimposed.

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I asked him: "In this photo, could you tell me what the circled item is? It looks like a light that you installed, either as part of this demonstration in particular, for showcasing, or for emergency lighting compliance. It appears to be in the right location to provide what appears to be emergency light in the attached image. Maybe it had some kind of LED on it?"

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April 30 17:57 GMT update

At 17:36 GMT, Roberto wrote: "Sterling, hi, this is the Second Webcam, we can access locally only to show a video of the generator & compressor. This Cam also has IR LEDs."

-- SilverThunder 14:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC) [with updates]

Interview with GAIA CEO, Roberto Reuter


Image:150429 5-kW-generator top-of-tube sq 95x95.gif
Latest: Directory:Buoyancy > Directory:Thrust Kinetic Generator by Rosch Innovations AG > Directory:Gaia-Energy -- Global Association for Independent Energy & Altruism > Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo > Interview with GAIA CEO, Roberto Reuter - Highlights: AuKW is a kinetic power plant two new videos showing 1) close-up of generator on top of 5 kW tube and 2) changing load by unplugging heater yesterday's outage, infrared camera distance between kW-h meters is ~50 M wall fasteners. (PESN April 30, 2015)

-- SilverThunder 01:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Official: Videos of 1) Changing Load & 2) Generator on Top

Here's the Google translation of today's posting at the blog. To see the video, you need to go to

You can hear the generator speed up (lighten up) when he unplugs one of the heaters. I'd be curious to see how the TV responds to what might be a temporary surge of power during this change.

: April 30, 2015

: We have prepared a little last night. Here is the result in 2 Videos:

: A close-up of the compressor and the generator, taken before the public viewing. Clearly visible are the pressure fluctuations on the pressure gauge, caused by the working of the valve technology of the power plant.

Image:150429 5-kW-generator top-of-tube 600.jpg

: We have removed before the camera an infrared heater with 1250 W power as a consumer to a phase. As it were a test for the demonstration of the variable load series pattern. We would like to illustrate the direct link between the generator and the electrical power [phenomenon]. Please pay attention to the sound generator when disconnecting the heating.

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-- SilverThunder 23:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Official: Club GAIA on Outage

As a point of reference, here's a YouTube video documenting what it looked like when it went down:


From my limited perspective, what is seen in that video is consistent with GAIA's description.

Prior to the outage (of the 5 kW system), the power for the lighting was coming from the lamps around the system. Then the AuKW went down, so the lights went out. The other lights in the hall were already off.

[April 30 2:35 GMT update: I've sent an email to Roberto asking: "Dansie said: 'Safety lighting is triggered by power failures in Germany , the USA and even here in the Philippines.' The safety lighting [appears to have been] on during the said time of the AuKW outage. This is a pretty good point that needs a better explanation than what we've received so far."]

Here is a Google translation of the April 29 posting at the blog.

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: As part of customer demonstrations was asked yesterday whether a load change at the generator would be audible. So both heaters were summarily (each 1250 W) is separated from the system. On this generator load change was shortly to hear, to the control unit had runtergeregelt the compressor. So far so good, but the re-plugging the heaters has been forgotten in the course of the conversation simply. In retrospect, that turned out to be an advantage!

: By the uneven power loss of each phase, there was a zero offset. Internal control has these abnormal operating condition tolerated about 2-3 hrs. Long, but then shut down the system as a precaution and submitted a failure. After the arrival of ROSCH staff, but the plant a new live stream was switched to only a total of about 45 minutes and re-started.

: This error is now found in the control programming into account, so we are pleased to be able to identify and implement a further factor for base load capacity of the plant.

: In particular, we thank those who provide a particularly remarkable time, meticulously every second to sit in front of the live stream and make any comments. We were greatly facilitated by an extensive analysis of the video footage.

: With glowing greetings from your GAIA local team

-- SilverThunder 15:34, 29 April 2015 (UTC) [with updates]

Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen?
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Latest: Directory:Buoyancy > Directory:Thrust Kinetic Generator by Rosch Innovations AG > Directory:Gaia-Energy -- Global Association for Independent Energy & Altruism > Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo > Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen? Is the buoyancy system unnecessary? - Herbert Frank, who attended the AuKW demo and is satisfied it is for real, is also convinced that buoyancy is not the heart of the system. Rather, the air compressor motor and the generator are working together like a QMoGen, with the buoyancy system acting like the (inefficient) belt between them. (PESN April 29, 2015)

-- SilverThunder 06:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Kudos from April 27 Showing
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Roberto, GAIA CEO, send me these three reviews that he received by Skype and email about yesterday's demo. Translated from German by Google.

: Feedback to visit on 4/27/2015

: Hello Roberto,

: Thank you for the Appointment of 5kW AuKW series pattern in Spich. I admire you by what incredible consequence promotes their project. Excellent organization of appointments with confirmation e-mail and all the trimmings. Class. A demonstration that leaves no questions unanswered. A wiring, which although looks wild at first, but precisely by uniquely offers complete transparency. Only in this way it is possible for everyone to track the path of the current from the generator of all elements up to the consumers themselves. Overall, really great !! Keep it up.

: Greeting Robert A.

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: Subject: Visit AuKW on 04.27.15

: Date: 28 April 2015 11:45:37 CEST

: To: r.reuter...

: Hello Roberto

: As promised during the visit of 5 KW AuKW yesterday, I would like you to convey my impressions.

: After a long wait, the day has finally been there that I am 4.27.2015 now finally able to experience the 5 Kw AuKW in Live. Despite the anticipated strong headwind, you have managed to reach this goal. Now I rejoice together at the workshops in July, August 2015 where we can build our own AuKW. In this context, I am also very pleased to be able to contribute a bit to preserve our beautiful planet and our children maybe can give a chance to see the world with different eyes.

: Greetings and to the Workshop !!!!

: Björn C.

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: Date: 27 April 2015 17:48:09 CEST

: To: "club GAIA | Central"

: Dear Gaia team

: I would like to thank you all, in particular, Christoph Beiser !!!

: You have accomplished a great performance!

: This brings us a step further towards the "Global Healing"!

: (Maybe even a version for the trunk :-))

: I want to be the installation manager and possibly trainers like ...

: Yours sincerely / Kind regards

: Andreas F.

-- SilverThunder 04:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

AuKW goes dark Livestream goes down

At 20:06 GMT, I wrote to Roberto: "The livestream feed is showing the lights turned off on the AuKW. Maybe something has been tripped?"

I wish I had done a printscreen to grab that image. It wasn't completely dark in there. It looked like there was light coming from from the ceiling, maybe a small skylight, or maybe an emergency light. The "live event is over" shows a grayed out version of what I see, that is a lot darker than when I saw it, which makes me think it was a skylight at the waning hours of daylight in Cologne, showing the last available image before it was turned off.

When I try to do a printscreen, it's nearly completely black and doesn't show any of the detail you can see of the YouTube image. I ended up taking a photo of the screen with my camera.

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At 20:28 GMT, I wrote to Roberto: "Now the livestream says: "The live event is over. Thanks for watching"

At 20:34 GMT, Roberto explained:

: Sterling, I closed the Stream - not ROSCH.

: Because I could not reach the cam control software anymore..

I asked "Was the livestream cam plugged into the 5 kW demo power? (which seems to have run into problems) then maybe your livestream cam battery died?"

Roberto replied: "Nope.. the cam has external power.. but is off as well. Let me see what I can do. its 22:30 here.."

At 21:11 GMT, Roberto wrote: "We don’t know details, but informed ROSCH. I estimate an easy explanation for the situation early tomorrow."

At 21:58 GMT, Roberto wrote: "The Livestream is back and running .."

At 22:06 GMT, Roberto wrote: "p.s. the reflection is from the natrium steam lighters on the bottom."

-- SilverThunder 20:50, 28 April 2015 (UTC) [with updates]

Official: Rosch Facility Power Consumption Vs. AuKW Demo Power Production

Stefan Hartmann had suggested that GAIA shut off power to the Rosch building to show that the AuKW demo really is producing power independently. That is not feasible, since Rosch is a business with people working, security systems, etc.

However, then, someone suggested they merely photograph the two meters and compare the energy. With the AuKW supposedly constantly producing power at a rate of 4.7 kW, if the source of that power were actually mains power, then the Rosch building usage would be above that. However, the most recent blog posting at dispels that.

(translated by Google, edited)

Image:Rosch-power v AuKW-power rd.jpg

: April 28, 2015

: Yesterday came to a question.

: It was asked if we could check whether our current production is linked to the consumption of Rosch.

: We then photographed the evening, the counter readings and made this morning a second photo of two counters.

: While [the AuKW] produced at recurrence pattern over 70 kW-h, the Rosch counter shows only a consumption of about 3 kW-h at the same time. We see with the photos, the question as answered.

-- SilverThunder 13:50, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

More about the Plexiglas demo system
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In a brief Skype chat with GAIA CEO, Roberto Reuter, I got more information about their Plexiglas see-through version that was demonstrated at a trade show by Adolf Schneider in Breganz, Switzerland, October 18, 2014. It shows the inner workings of how the compressed air fitting lines up with the rotating floats. The apparatus is on wheels, which rules out hidden wires from under the device.

Roberto said it "ran continuously for about 1:40 hours until the guys from Rosch had to leave, otherwise it could have run for hours."

He said: "In the beginning, there were 4 simple compressors on the model. They got hot, which limited the time the model was able to run. But at this congress, the a membrane pump was already installed, so the running time was no longer limited."

(In the image shown to the right, from April 27, 2015 at the present demo, there is no water in the tank. It was present to show the inner components of the system that was being demonstrated in the steel (not see-through) tube.)

-- SilverThunder 13:07, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Demo Video by Ronny Korsberg


(YouTube April 27, 2015)

Interview with Ronny Korsberg: Very Confident This is Real
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I had a great recorded voice chat with Ronny Korsberg for ~ an hour. He's from Oslo Norway and flew down to see the demo today. I'll be writing up a story.

He's very confident that the technology is real. Basically no doubt.

I have a lot of trust in him. Spent some quality time with him in 2013. That photo you see on our Facebook page was taken by him during that trip.

So I'm going to be putting GAIA/Rosch in our Top 5 Exotic Free Energy Technologies shortly.

I'll update this blog post as this story takes form, with link to the recording, photos, story as they become available.


Recording of our 1-hour conversation about GAIA AuKW demo (40 Mb MP3)

Zip File with Ronny's Photos (30 Mb)

Recording of last-week's chat about Ronny's experience at ICCF-19 Conference in Italy (12 Mb MP3)

-- SilverThunder 23:28, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Latest: Directory:Buoyancy > Directory:Thrust Kinetic Generator by Rosch Innovations AG > Directory:Gaia-Energy -- Global Association for Independent Energy & Altruism > Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo > Ronny Korsberg is very confident Rosch KPP/GAIA AuKW is real - Exotic Free Energy connoisseur attended the GAIA 5 kW AuKW demo on Monday as well as the Plexiglas demo last Fall. Based on what he has seen, and the conversations he's had with some of the players, he is essentially certain that they are for real, and no trickery is taking place. (PESN April 28, 2015)

-- SilverThunder 04:39, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Here are some new angles Ronny captured for us. Full resolution images are available for download from the PESN story:

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-- SilverThunder 02:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Official: ...AuKW Visits - 04/27/2015

GAIA has posted their second blog posting since the demo went live Saturday. (Translated by Google.) (No new photo posted by GAIA.)

: April 27, 2015

: Live Stream AuKW Visits - 04/27/2015

: We are proud to announce that have taken the opportunity of live tour already on the second day more than 170 people.

: Many buyer, we have now met in person. In particular, we are excited about the 8 new orders from both days. We are confident that the feedback from the personal interviews more people motivated to participate. To all those who can not be there to provide insight - we were able to establish a livestream today finally. This is now unlocked publicly on our website and ROSCH's and enjoys encourage access.

: Link to our live stream via YouTube:

: Anyone who is mobile and has the opportunity to experience this world premiere in person is very welcome to register and get past online for a visit. Reserve here your participation:

-- SilverThunder 17:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Livestream Up

Note: The hours of touring are from 9:45 - 17:15 GMT +1


(YouTube Apr 27, 2015)


: For enhanced display please Switch on our Website under

: Live transmission of the AuKW sightseeing in Troisdorf / Spich on Rosh premises. Find all information to participate under

Stefan Hartmann of notes: "If you are in Germany you need to use the Firefox Plugin ProxTube to get it working, because in Germany LiveStreams are prohibited by Youtube due to licensing problems with the GEMA license company."

-- SilverThunder 16:33, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Impressed Visitor: Valentino S

Roberto sent me this feedback he received:

: Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:

: Datum: 27. April 2015 09:58:59 MESZ

: An: r.reuter

: Roberto,

: We'd like to thank you for your product presentation on Saturday. Seeing it first-hand really made an impression.

: We're sorry that we couldn't say good-bye to you. We had to immediately leave after our meeting with the Rosch representative. Thank you so much for making that possible for us.

: Our company would like to purchase one KPP. We'd also like to further communicate with you regarding KPP ...

: We await your reply regarding both of these requests.

: Sincerely,

: --

: Valentino S.

-- SilverThunder 15:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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There are some rumblings over at and in the comments below about this demonstration. The general sentiment seems to be that this must surely be some kind of scam. Scientifically, the numbers just don't add up. And they're not happy with the lack of access to the apparatus to take measurements. The security perimeter is 5 meters.

Meanwhile, the folks at GAIA are miffed at the skepticism in what to them is a straightforward demonstration of the first in a series of 500 production devices. This isn't transparent on rollers like the previous Plexiglas one, because it's designed for function, providing power, not proof.

It seems to me that both sides need more empathy for one another. GAIA needs to realize that extraordinary claims are going to require extraordinary proof. Those two fastening points of the tube to the wall are obvious points of possible trickery. This could be dispelled by cutting the power to the facility and showing that the device still runs. They shouldn't be put off by such a suggestion, but be grateful for it, as a good idea.

Meanwhile the skeptics should realize that from GAIA's point of view, they see this as a disruptive technology, and they need to keep their security apparatus wired up, and if they shut the power, that become compromised. This is just one thing that comes to mind to me as why GAIA might resist such a suggestion.

I have to admit that as I look at the numbers and info and the lack of transparency on the part of GAIA, I'm becoming more skeptical.

If this is a fraud of some kind, I doubt that very many people are in on it. Maybe two or three at most. The rest are blindly following along, thinking it is real because it looks real.

Tilley and others had a lot of people fooled.

Of course, I want this to be real.

I would hope that GAIA will allow some third party individuals to be present when the AuKW 1 is disassembled at the end of the demo May 6, so that the observers can see that the two fastening points are just that: fasteners, with no trickery embedded. At a minimum, they should allow 2-3 insider GAIA individuals to be present to observe this and report what they see. And to confirm that there are no wires coming up from the floor.

Now that I have a better idea of what this demo entails and what the set-up is, I don't see why GAIA might be expecting big numbers to show up. The control panel is too complicated for most people. They can't see inside the tube. They can't get close. They can't climb high enough to look down inside. They just hear it operating. They could do that via YouTube.

If I had been in charge of the demonstration, I would have made sure that it was obvious that it was a stand-alone system with no way for external power to be applied. The supporting mechanism must be transparent. An easy way to do this would be to have the support mechanism removable, such as by having three fasteners so one could be removed at a time, leaving two to hold it in place. Or the supporting rods could be made see-through. I would have made the measurement instruments simple, not complex.

I'm not ready to put these guys in the Top 5. Not enough evidence yet.

It seems to me that what they really need to do is bring in third party professionals to measure the device, ruling out all possibility of trickery. Then they wouldn't have to worry about security, and those with the necessary skills would have the needed access to what they need access to.

-- SilverThunder 05:35, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

KPP Photos

Stefan Hartmann gave me these links from someone who attended the demo.

WARNING: The links are full of spam and unwanted pop-ups. Below are thumbnails. One is shown in the above blog post.

Image:AuKW controls 350.jpg
Image:100kW tube 350.jpg
Image:AuKW tower-top-half 350.jpg
Image:AuKW tower-top close-up 350.jpg

-- SilverThunder 05:35, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Scientists Grapple with KPP Energy Balance

I've added more to the story posted April 24: Part IV: Math for expanding gas as floats rise shows Rosch KPP buoyancy device is overunity.

Click here for the shortcut to the April 26 dialogue, so far, between Ryan Ross, Mark Euthanasius, and Simon Derricutt. Stefan Hartmann also chimes in.

I added quite a bit of dialogue there yesterday as well. Note, in particular, the input from Fess from

QuestionEverything wrote in the comments below:

: This apparatus is certainly not a heat pump. Thermodynamic effects are far too small to yield any relevant contribution to the output energy.

-- SilverThunder 14:30, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

100 kW Demo Update -- (Distracted by 5 kW?)

It sounds like the 100 kW demo may be taking longer than expected. (I would think they would be distracted by the 5 kW demo)

It might not be feasible to expect to be able to do the 5 kW and the 100 kW demo in one trip.

I'm surprised they were even talking about the possibility of having the 100 kW demo ready in the first week of May, since they will be busy doing the 5 kW demo.

: From: "Verein GAIA | Roberto Reuter"

: To: "Sterling Allan"

: Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 3:02 AM

: Subject: Re: [] from India wants to come to demo -- May 15?

: Sterling, Hi,

: The last day of the 5kW demo is May 6th - I cant take visitors later than that date. The 5kW model will be moved after the viewing.

: [Regarding] the 100kW unit - give them the time they need to raise that.. plans may sometimes not reflect the reality. There always can happen something unexpected and delay the plan within such a huge project.

: With best Regards from Roberto

-- SilverThunder 13:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Seeking Visitor Input

I just sent the following email to Roberto Reuter, CEO, GAIA

: I've not yet heard any input from people who have attended. J.D., who was going to attend yesterday, had car problems, so he's rescheduled for May 1.

: Would you mind giving my email address to 3-4 people to have them tell me their impressions, conclusions, and report on what the experience is like? What did they see? What did they think? Were they convinced? What are their interests at this point in the technology? Is there a waiting area for people prior to visit time? Is there a socializing area for people to visit before/after? Are they glad they went?

: Photos? Video?

: This can be in German, and I can translate via Google.

: The easiest email to convey/remember is info {at}

-- SilverThunder 04:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

- - - -

Roberto replied: (slightly edited)

: From: "Verein GAIA | Roberto Reuter"

: To: "Sterling Allan"

: Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:20 [GMT]

: Subject: Re: visitor input, please?

: Sterling, Hi,

: We tell the people to go back and argue positive in their environment - actively talk and recommend what they saw.. of course to generate orders ..

: Of course we take care for the people before and after the visits, have social / waiting areas and so on.. they even find a buffet there..

: We do all possible, to make it recommendable and comfortable, because some of them have long journeys behind them.

: But please understand, that our audience is European, mostly German and Austrian, some Dutch, and others and they have been treated in the past. Many of them I talked to are afraid to post officially.

: Currently there are Multiplicators needed who talk, communicate and lead the audience in real life and internet too.

: With best Regards from Roberto

In response, I asked him: "Do you know of any blog links or forums you can send me to where people have talked about their experience so far?"

-- SilverThunder 12:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Within an hour, he replied: (slightly edited)

: From: "Verein GAIA | Roberto Reuter"

: To: "Sterling Allan"

: Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:42 [GMT]

: Subject: Re: visitor input, please?

: Sterling, Hi,

: I do know few - but most of them are very bad-talking - that we don't want to force anymore..

: As I said earlier - maybe the biggest task on this technology is to understand that it's harmless, and nobody is lying about it.

: Unfortunately most of the communicators are looking for mistakes or even fraudulent circumstances..

: People are literally shaped by the thought that this can not go. And people who ordered that power plant unusually don't talk official - which I understand, because they would expose themselves towards the public criticism.. Bad - but true - you know?

: Good Sunday to you..

: with best Regards from Roberto

-- SilverThunder 14:51, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


quoting from (Google Translate)

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It's finally here! The visits are opened ..

Last Vorbreitungen were necessary because the 1000 W radiator not endure the continuous stress. Now shine more durable Resounding radiator. The cover picture we have supplemented the afternoon. It shows the current count.


2015 Archive:Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo: Prior to April 25 Demo Launch

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See also


Directory:Thrust Kinetic Generator by Rosch Innovations AG - focusing on utility-scale

Blog:Rosch's 15 kW and 100 kW Demo

Event:2015:June: Rosch 15 kW and 100 kW Demo Measurement

Directory:Gaia-Energy -- Global Association for Independent Energy & Altruism - licensee to produce 5 kW home power system

Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo - 5 kW production prototype demonstrated running continuously from April 25 - May 6, 2015

2015 Archive:Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo: May 13 Disassembly Day

2015 Archive:Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo: May 6(+) Measurement Day

2015 Archive:Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo: May 1-5, Surpassed 1 MW-h

2015 Archive:Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo: April 25-30, Including Coverage on Outage

2015 Archive:Blog:GAIA's AuKW Demo: Prior to April 25 Demo Launch

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